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Why not Replace Pacers With ex-IE 2700s?
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What spare bogies do you mean? Because as far as I'm aware there aren't any. The only bogies available to work with these units would be the bogies that are currently under them!
Oops, the word I was looking for would have been replacement bogies (i.e. bogies for 1435mm standard gauge track) which would have been a better way to put it than spare.
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Don't think Health and safety would permit carrying passenger in coal hoppers. Anyway, the 378s are great, or am I the only one
378s are like park benches on wheels. It's just as well BR changed second class to standard class years ago, or it would have been necessary to reintroduce third class for the 378s
I can't believe a man who thinks that 378s are great is complaining about pacers.......... <is speechless>
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378s are like park benches on wheels. It's just as well BR changed second class to standard class years ago, or it would have been necessary to reintroduce third class for the 378s
Not sure if I could imagine a 378 with Longitudinal 1st Class seating
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Back to the 2700's..
Their dimensions are.
Width - 2834mm (at widest point)
Rail to Roof height - 3985mm
Length over body (not including couplers/gangways) 20543mm
First pic is the cross section at the widest part of the body And the second at the non driving end of the car. (Cab end is narrower again)
Dont know if someone wants to compare them to the UK loading gauge.
Their dimensions are.
Width - 2834mm (at widest point)
Rail to Roof height - 3985mm
Length over body (not including couplers/gangways) 20543mm
First pic is the cross section at the widest part of the body And the second at the non driving end of the car. (Cab end is narrower again)
Dont know if someone wants to compare them to the UK loading gauge.
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378s are like park benches on wheels. It's just as well BR changed second class to standard class years ago, or it would have been necessary to reintroduce third class for the 378s
The 378s operate tube-like services and are designed for crush loading - see a North London Line train between say Hackney and Highbury & Islington - and are very good at doing so. It amuses me how folk who have used them once or twice whinge while regular users (I am on the things at least 4 times a day!) love them. Believe me they are a million percent better than the previous 313s. Just look at the London Overground passenger figures some time......
Pacers are complete and utter junk - always have been and always will be!
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150's are evil
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Isn't having a turbocharged DMU replacing a naturally aspirated one bad? You know. Turbo lag and all that, apparently the 170's that replaced the 150's on the Birmingham to rugeley line had to run on an amended timetable because of slower acceleration until the turbo kicks in ( which is hard to do when you keep starting and stopping)
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You can spool the turbo without putting it into gear in theory with a hydraulic transmission.
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