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Unread 19th May 2012, 15:01   #76
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"Cross-Coastway" services CANNOT happen as it simply blocks off any incoming/outgoing trains on the Mainline for a couple of minutes. This is the reason why the old Connex services from Eastbourne to Hove/Worthing/Littlehampton were stopped at Brighton, even a Seaford service which left from P3 at Brighton, has been re-platformed to prevent the throat being blocked. If you timetable services right, there is no need for through services.

Pointless having a fly-over too, is it really worth spending millions on one which would be used at most half-hourly ?
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Well considering how many people i've witnessed travel from one end of Brighton station to connect with the other Coastway service there seems to be significant demand. Some of the services i've been on have been full and standing.

Also you should see what it's like when football is on at Falmer and the Lewes bonfire is happening.
So that's a couple of dozen football games a year plus one bonfire a year?
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A bonfire is just a bonfire and will not attract that many people. As for B&HA, they will play at most approximately 30 games at home per season (allowing for cup games). Even if everyone travelled as you say, that's only 750K - a year. And the vast majority of travellers to Falmer for football do not come from the West Coastway! I had always been under the impression that the main benefit of Falmer station's position was for the benefit of people travelling from the east.
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I know this is a long way away, but the fully completed Thameslink Programe will affect services too if they will go to Worthing or Eastbourne.
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I know this is a long way away, but the fully completed Thameslink Programe will affect services too if they will go to Worthing or Eastbourne.
It is not currently planned for Thameslink services to go to the Coastway. (The current list of southern termini is Brighton, Three Bridges, Horsham, Caterham, East Grinstead, Sevenoaks and Maidstone East, with some peak services to Tunbridge Wells and Ashford.)
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A bonfire is just a bonfire and will not attract that many people.
Are you aware of the Lewes Bonfire? That's a bit of a silly thing to be saying if you are.
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Yes, I am. But it's still just a bonfire, even if it is a highly popular one. And it's only one night a year.
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I entirely agree with the fact that cross-Brighton services are a bad idea, particularly when there are a large number of trains to use in both directions anyway.

I was just pedant-ing the whole "will not attract that many people" thing.
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Pointless having a fly-over too, is it really worth spending millions on one which would be used at most half-hourly ?
If it reduces overcrowding and allows for an increased service then yes! Could certainly be useful for diversionary purposes also.
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A bonfire is just a bonfire and will not attract that many people. As for B&HA, they will play at most approximately 30 games at home per season (allowing for cup games). Even if everyone travelled as you say, that's only 750K - a year. And the vast majority of travellers to Falmer for football do not come from the West Coastway! I had always been under the impression that the main benefit of Falmer station's position was for the benefit of people travelling from the east.
Well the key case for Brighton Mainline 2 is so Falmer gets a better service and there is improved access to Falmer stadium. I think a new spur linking the East and West coastway could have many benefits and compete with the A27 and A259. The roads round Eastbourne are manic in the Summer.

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