Old Underground Stock at Eastleigh - Page 2

hello · 20th May 2012, 21:41

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Originally Posted by starrymarkb

It's in the Group Standards, New stock on the main line (and these would not count as previously used) must have a separate door for the driver to access the track away from any passengers. Look at the 444s and 175s as an example.

The Sprinters and Pacers were built before the requirement. hence drivers must use a passenger door to access the track...

What adjacent door? the only side doors on 67/72 stock are in the passenger saloon

what about pendolino?

Peter Mugridge · 20th May 2012, 22:17

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Originally Posted by Drsatan

Sorry, was referring to the passenger door nearest to the drivers cab. Should have made myself clearer

You'd have to block off a third of the carriage from passengers to do this though - if they are used in two car formation like the 1938 stock that's only going to leave one and a third carriages usable per unit.

507 001 · 22nd May 2012, 14:10

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Originally Posted by hello

what about pendolino?

They have a dedicated crew door.

Michael.Y · 23rd May 2012, 00:06

You can't use former Cut+Cover / Subsurface stock on the IOW anyhoo due to the height of the Ryde tunnels; it would have to be Tube / Deep Level stock. I thought the ex-Victoria Line 67 would have been a shoe-in until I read the above reasoning.

BestWestern · 23rd May 2012, 08:35

I saw in a paper yesterday some bumph about the latest Bond film, which apparently includes a scene with a "tube train crashing through a wall". No idea where or why, but I was curious as to whether they'd used some of this withdrawn stock in filming, any ideas?

Surely Eastleigh is (relatively) secure, so the yobs must have got to these prior to them being moved? Where else have they been stored, and why the long wait for scrapping?

swt_passenger · 23rd May 2012, 09:02

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Originally Posted by BestWestern

Surely Eastleigh is (relatively) secure, so the yobs must have got to these prior to them being moved? Where else have they been stored, and why the long wait for scrapping?

I definitely read that they arrived from an LT depot in that condition.

millemille · 23rd May 2012, 09:30

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Originally Posted by BestWestern

I saw in a paper yesterday some bumph about the latest Bond film, which apparently includes a scene with a "tube train crashing through a wall". No idea where or why, but I was curious as to whether they'd used some of this withdrawn stock in filming, any ideas?

The trailer I've seen for the film looks like a Jubilee or Northern line unit.

BestWestern · 23rd May 2012, 09:55

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Originally Posted by millemille

The trailer I've seen for the film looks like a Jubilee or Northern line unit.

Ah, presumably it's a mock-up or CGI then?

millemille · 23rd May 2012, 10:21

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Originally Posted by BestWestern

Ah, presumably it's a mock-up or CGI then?

Could be, but there were several spares of the composite cab sections made as part of the original build so it's not beyond possible that one of these was used and enhanced with CGI...

Peter Mugridge · 23rd May 2012, 13:00

They used a mock up; they even built a full size mock up tube station in one of the studios!

BestWestern · 23rd May 2012, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Peter Mugridge

They used a mock up; they even built a full size mock up tube station in one of the studios!

That's very interesting...

Peter Mugridge · 23rd May 2012, 21:56

There was something about it in ( I think ) one of the free newspapers about 2 - 3 months ago when they were doing a feature on Bond. It included a photograph of the mock up in the mocked up station showing the film crew off the side of the platform where you'd normally have the wall.

whhistle · 24th May 2012, 18:11

Shame they don't think about using the older stock on Cov-Bhm or even Cross City. A line with many stops only a few miles apart.

Get round the crew door issue by blocking off half the carriage (including that door) to get some air conditioning in the trains. Create a proper gangway and surely you're on to a winner?

sprinterguy · 24th May 2012, 18:27

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Originally Posted by whhistle

Shame they don't think about using the older stock on Cov-Bhm or even Cross City. A line with many stops only a few miles apart.

Get round the crew door issue by blocking off half the carriage (including that door) to get some air conditioning in the trains. Create a proper gangway and surely you're on to a winner?

If that post wasn't meant in jest, as I suspect it is, then you'd be even more barking mad than the Harrogate Chamber of Commerce!

antharro · 24th May 2012, 21:56

Bringing this back on topic...

Colindale via Charing Cross?

To avoid forum blow-out, these are resized versions of just a few of the pics I took.
You can find the rest at higher resolutions HERE.

23rd May 2012, 00:06	#19
Michael.Y Member Join Date: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 956	You can't use former Cut+Cover / Subsurface stock on the IOW anyhoo due to the height of the Ryde tunnels; it would have to be Tube / Deep Level stock. I thought the ex-Victoria Line 67 would have been a shoe-in until I read the above reasoning.

23rd May 2012, 08:35	#20
BestWestern "Transforming Trouble..." Established Member Join Date: 6 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,377	I saw in a paper yesterday some bumph about the latest Bond film, which apparently includes a scene with a "tube train crashing through a wall". No idea where or why, but I was curious as to whether they'd used some of this withdrawn stock in filming, any ideas? Surely Eastleigh is (relatively) secure, so the yobs must have got to these prior to them being moved? Where else have they been stored, and why the long wait for scrapping?

23rd May 2012, 13:00	#25
Peter Mugridge Established Member Join Date: 8 Apr 2010 Location: Epsom Posts: 3,515	They used a mock up; they even built a full size mock up tube station in one of the studios!

23rd May 2012, 21:56	#27
Peter Mugridge Established Member Join Date: 8 Apr 2010 Location: Epsom Posts: 3,515	There was something about it in ( I think ) one of the free newspapers about 2 - 3 months ago when they were doing a feature on Bond. It included a photograph of the mock up in the mocked up station showing the film crew off the side of the platform where you'd normally have the wall.

24th May 2012, 18:11	#28
whhistle Member Join Date: 30 Dec 2010 Posts: 409	Shame they don't think about using the older stock on Cov-Bhm or even Cross City. A line with many stops only a few miles apart. Get round the crew door issue by blocking off half the carriage (including that door) to get some air conditioning in the trains. Create a proper gangway and surely you're on to a winner?

24th May 2012, 21:56	#30
antharro Member Join Date: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 73	Bringing this back on topic... Colindale via Charing Cross? To avoid forum blow-out, these are resized versions of just a few of the pics I took. You can find the rest at higher resolutions HERE.