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Unread 7th May 2012, 12:32   #1
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Default Nearly or impossible to keep station to station timings

Just wandering which station to station timings are very hard or impossible to keep to, one i quite regularly do is Preston to Lancaster which is 13 mins, which have very rarely kept to, be interested to know what other timings are like this?
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How often is very rarely? 13 minutes is roughly the correct amount of time it takes to do leaving Preston to arriving at Lancaster on a 390, certainly on a clear run it is very easy to keep to. I wouldn't say I find any hard to keep to, otherwise they wouldn't be timetabled for that long!
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We soon find out if things are too short. Regardless of the 3 minute rule to trigger a delay in TRUST, if trains consistently lose time in a section it gets noticed and flagged up. There have often been delay incidents opened on suspect sections where 1 minute delays get chucked in.
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xx26 & xx56 arrivals at Ashford from Charing Cross never seem to arrive on time, from my experience. I imagine this has something to do with pathing in the London Bridge/New Cross area.
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Doesn't it sometimes happen where trains never run to time? For example on NRE before a train has even left it can be expected to depart the origin ontime, be 2 minutes late throughout and arrive at the terminus on time?
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Down Virgin trains to from London to Milton Keynes very, very rarely arrive in the 30m the public timetables state.
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XC Voyagers between Plymouth and Totnes are not booked enough time, and nearly always arrive at the due departure time and leave up to 2 minutes behind time.

Leaving Plymouth at xx.25 and arriving Totnes is xx.49 just does not seem possible - especially with the slow approach to Totnes of 25 mph! Can't think of a time I have ever been on a voyager that has arrived at Totnes as booked at xx.49, even on the first train of the morning!
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Bidston -> Upton (Merseyside)

According to the timetable (weekday daytimes) trains typically depart Bidston at xx:32, and arrive Upton at xx:33.

The stations are around a mile and three quarters apart by rail, and there's a sharp bend in the track just outside Bidston.

In reality, this routinely happens (Photo taken at Upton):-



I don't know why they don't just adjust the timetable accordingly.
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The Sheffield to Manchester local stopping service seems to have great difficulty keeping to time. Many times I've been stood at Reddish North and the train is anything up to 10 mins late.
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Bidston -> Upton (Merseyside)

According to the timetable (weekday daytimes) trains typically depart Bidston at xx:32, and arrive Upton at xx:33.

The stations are around a mile and three quarters apart by rail, and there's a sharp bend in the track just outside Bidston.
PTT differential there again, WTT times are 4 minutes between the two stations. That whole service seems incredibly odd as there are differentials at every stop.
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The Sheffield to Manchester local stopping service seems to have great difficulty keeping to time. Many times I've been stood at Reddish North and the train is anything up to 10 mins late.
That is bad! Its a route I've used quite a bit. It takes me half an hour to walk from Chapel to Chinley. I get to Chinley expecting it to be 4-5 down. Even if it I'm pushing it, I expect to have 4-5 additional minutes and I've never yet missed it.
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Doesn't it sometimes happen where trains never run to time? For example on NRE before a train has even left it can be expected to depart the origin ontime, be 2 minutes late throughout and arrive at the terminus on time?
That is probably because the WTT is probably 2 minutes later than the GBTT (Passenger Timetable)!
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The Sheffield to Manchester local stopping service seems to have great difficulty keeping to time. Many times I've been stood at Reddish North and the train is anything up to 10 mins late.
That often happens because it is delayed at Sheffield by the Cleethorpes - Manchester Airport service, booked to leave Sheffield 3 mins. before the stopping service.
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That is probably because the WTT is probably 2 minutes later than the GBTT (Passenger Timetable)!
Yeah exactly, majority of public don't know there are 2 different timetables. WTT can sometimes be 6-7 min out sync with passenger times causing confusion amongst passenger when they think the trains late and when really it's on time.
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