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Danfilm007
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There was one of the ex-London 09 plate 200s, with an 11 plate SR with the brown and cream seats and one of the hired-in yellow and blue Solos on the 1A/B, I think there was a Dart and a Solo on the 8, this was all on Saturday
Baxenden Bank
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Extract from N & P (my bold):
I hope a suitably contrite apology is forthcoming from whoever is responsible for the VOSA website!
Spent this morning at Crewe bus station, not the most attractive bus station that's for sure.It certainly hasn't got any better since my last visit.Mikro were using white E200 KX59 CYV on service 39.Otherwise just the usual stuff from D&G, Arriva & First Potteries.
Someone's photo of one of them here: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5557/30432727430_b73d15b100_b.jpg
Judging by the registration it looks like Howards/Springfield new Enviro for the 200 service came from the same dealership: https://www.flickr.com/photos/plaxtongeezer/30826323256/in/photostream/
If anyone's interested in where the former GHA vehicles which used to be used in Cheshire East are now:
Three of the former Cheshire East council owned Solos are with Llew Jones, Llanrwst and the rest have gone on permanent holiday to Ireland and are with Slieve Bloom, Co. Laois and Knockmay, Portlaoise.
Two of the fairly new Solo SRs are now in Lanark with Blue Bus, another is with Faresaver, Chippenham and the 4th is with Ensign - still unsold.
3 of the former Gold 88 Enviros are now in Aylesbury - one with Red Rose Travel and the other with Red Line Travel and the fourth is with Mid Wales Motors, Aberystwyth.
The Beartown Enviros are with Roberts Travel Group, Hugglescote, Leicestershire and Mid Wales Travel, Aberystwyth, while the Gold 42 Enviros are with Faresaver, Chippenham.
The two Cheshire Connect Darts are unsold.
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Noticed on the D&G Bus website that three brand new Solo SRs have joined the fleet and apparently have a 'Leighton Link' livery, so they must be for either the 12 or 42 service. While four of the recently acquired 09 reg Enviro 200s have moved to Adderley Green.
Three of the former Cheshire East council owned Solos are with Llew Jones, Llanrwst and the rest have gone on permanent holiday to Ireland and are with Slieve Bloom, Co. Laois and Knockmay, Portlaoise.
Two of the fairly new Solo SRs are now in Lanark with Blue Bus, another is with Faresaver, Chippenham and the 4th is with Ensign - still unsold.
3 of the former Gold 88 Enviros are now in Aylesbury - one with Red Rose Travel and the other with Red Line Travel and the fourth is with Mid Wales Motors, Aberystwyth.
The Beartown Enviros are with Roberts Travel Group, Hugglescote, Leicestershire and Mid Wales Travel, Aberystwyth, while the Gold 42 Enviros are with Faresaver, Chippenham.
The two Cheshire Connect Darts are unsold.
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Noticed on the D&G Bus website that three brand new Solo SRs have joined the fleet and apparently have a 'Leighton Link' livery, so they must be for either the 12 or 42 service. While four of the recently acquired 09 reg Enviro 200s have moved to Adderley Green.
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Danfilm007
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Interesting - I might go and have a hunt this weekend for a picture of one...
Not seen these yet but the timetables page on the D&G website has been updated today to show a new "Leighton Link" logo for route 12.
Also noticed on buses this week that the Cheshire Travelcard can't be used on route 42 from next Monday
On the Timetables page it now says the 42 route is operated from the Adderley Green depot.
Metrocity is going to be put in to service on the 15:15 Knutsford to Macclesfield 27 service this afternoon, registration RH66 HOW. It's currently parked up at Knutsford bus station.
Something i kept forgetting to post, On the 23rd October Arriva Winsfords 6 Service became part funded by Cheshire East Council, With D&G's 12 Service being in that area i have a feeling the 6 Service is on its last legs
https://www.vehicle-operator-licens...registered-local-bus-services/details/493152/
https://www.vehicle-operator-licens...registered-local-bus-services/details/493152/
martinsh
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You've got it wrong ! (I think)
1. Service 6 (and 12) is actually in Crewe - just run by Winsford depot.
2. What actually happened is that the 6E (Mon - Fri evening service) was taken over by Arriva from D & G at that date.
99 service is to be cutback from 9 return workings to 7 return workings from 29th January: http://dgbus.co.uk/assets/99_2017-01-29.pdf
While the 12E service is being revised to include an additional return working to Leighton Hospital: http://dgbus.co.uk/assets/12,12e_2017-01-29.pdf
While the 12E service is being revised to include an additional return working to Leighton Hospital: http://dgbus.co.uk/assets/12,12e_2017-01-29.pdf
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323235
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The new 99 timetable is bizarre , the gaps are very variable and is only going to reduce the patronage and viability further than what it is currently.
I've sent an email to them commenting on the changes.
I've sent an email to them commenting on the changes.
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childwallblues
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Only registers a complaint, won't change their minds.
323235
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Well they've said they are forwarding it onto the Local Authority so I'm happy with that even if it won't change the Councils plans.
The gaps aren't very variable. Going into Macclesfield they alternate between being 75 and 105 minutes. So every other hour they're spending half an hour at Congleton. Is there anything interesting to do there?
323235
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Macclesfield and Congleton are both sizable economic centres of Cheshire.
The 99 service has lost a lot of passengers from my observations over the last few years with lots of chopping and changing to the service by different operators - notably High Peak.
First it was half hourly Monday - Saturday
Then it was hourly Monday - Saturday
Then it was hourly Monday-Friday
and now it is no longer going to operate on a clockface timetable of either hourly or two hourly - coincidentally leading up to a 1.5 million pound cut to the subsidised network in 2018/19
Cynical I maybe but I believe this latest change is designed to reduce ridership to justify withdrawing it completely, given not so long ago the council were going to let the service go completely until GHA Coaches stepped in.
The 99 service has lost a lot of passengers from my observations over the last few years with lots of chopping and changing to the service by different operators - notably High Peak.
First it was half hourly Monday - Saturday
Then it was hourly Monday - Saturday
Then it was hourly Monday-Friday
and now it is no longer going to operate on a clockface timetable of either hourly or two hourly - coincidentally leading up to a 1.5 million pound cut to the subsidised network in 2018/19
Cynical I maybe but I believe this latest change is designed to reduce ridership to justify withdrawing it completely, given not so long ago the council were going to let the service go completely until GHA Coaches stepped in.
The 99 (as it is now) and 27 both seemed to lose out because GHA were running them commercially and no other operator was willing to run them commercially. Cheshire East originally tried to avoid awarding a contract for a 27 Saturday service as well until they got complaints from people who work on Saturday and need the bus to get to work. However, the 200 service (which was and still is contracted) avoided being cut back despite a train service existing between Wilmslow and the Airport meaning it's only really needed to serve Styal, Quarry Bank Mill and the Viewing Park.
It should be noted the 38 service offers an alternative for getting between Congleton and Macclesfield, while the 14 also runs between Lyme Green and Macclesfield and the 92 runs between Buglawton and Congleton. Personally I was surprised they awarded a contract for the full route - I thought at most they'd do a limited peak time service to allow people living in Congleton to get to and from Lyme Green Business Park.
I've noticed the very limited 47 service between High Legh and Warrington isn't mentioned on the Cheshire East website. Perhaps they think if they don't publicise it no-one will use it and they can withdraw the funding?
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I noticed today that Brook Lane, Alderley Edge has a couple of disused yellow 'Cheshire Bus' bus stops along it (the type used in the 1990s.) Brook Lane is the road which is the road you'd take out of Alderley Edge to go towards Chorley/Great Warford/Mobberley/Knutsford. Does anyone know which bus service used to run along that road?
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I noticed today that Brook Lane, Alderley Edge has a couple of disused yellow 'Cheshire Bus' bus stops along it (the type used in the 1990s.) Brook Lane is the road which is the road you'd take out of Alderley Edge to go towards Chorley/Great Warford/Mobberley/Knutsford. Does anyone know which bus service used to run along that road?
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martinsh
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I seem to remember there used to be an infrequent service Great Warford - Alderley Edge - Wilmslow, and also a Tuesdays only service Alderley Edge - Mobberley - Altrincham
I found some further information on a blog site. I remember the E69 but wasn't sure exactly what route it took by the time it was routed to serve a number of different villages opposed to being a direct service between A and B. I think that RR1? that started at Middle Walk, Knutsford (random place) also went to Alderley Edge on Mondays only but again I'm not sure on the exact route it took.
https://mancunian1001.wordpress.com...of-greater-manchester-the-not-so-perfect-ten/
While the bus stops are the old style it seems a shame they have been left there while there are unmarked bus stops on other routes e.g. 289 and 300 where a bus stop sign and a timetable display would be a useful addition. For instance, an old lady was waiting at an unmarked bus stop for a non-existent 12:45 run on the 300 service the other day even though 12:45 and 20:15 are the two times services don't run to allow driver breaks.
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Baxenden Bank
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According to the April 1990 Cheshire book:
E17: Macclesfield - Prestbury - Mottram - Alderley - Wilmslow Rail Sta.
E69: Alderley - Lindlow End - Mobberley - Ashley - Altrincham
287: Macclesfield - Prestbury - Mottram - Alderley - Wilmslow - Altrincham
ran along Brook Lane.
E59: Wilmslow - Alderley - Great Warford
ran along Rileys Lane.
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Moving forward to 1992:
E17 remains;
E69 remains;
287 remains;
288 is new operating Altrincham to Wilmslow as per 287, then via Mobberley to Knutsford, perhaps not via Alderley Edge but close to;
E59 remains.
By 1994:
E17 is not shown;
E69 remains;
287 remains;
288 remains;
E59 remains.
In 1997:
E69 now operates via the E59 route from Alderley to Great Warford, picking up its old route at Knolls Green;
287 now operates Macclesfield - Wilmslow - Manchester Airport;
288 remains;
E59 merged with E69.
And I see the 'double post prevention' system has rejoined the Forum. Welcome back
The May 2003 map is the last one I have showing a service along Rileys Lane. By 2007 the 287 has become the 26A and operates direct Alderley to Wilmslow.
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I think it's a shame the Manchester Airport service now terminates in Wilmslow, it could be so much more useful if it continued beyond Wilmslow to somewhere which doesn't have a direct rail service to the Airport.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Like Prestbury and Mottram St Andrew...
Using a bus like this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026515037
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