Class 707 - SWT: Introduction into service

leomartin125 · 21 Aug 2017

spark001uk said:
Passenger no. Test yes.

So how come these 2Z services took place last week? Out in passenger service for one day, next minute back on test again and withdrawn from passenger service. I don't understand what is going on, whether the franchise is causing the issues or whether they just aren't ready yet? Can someone enlighten me?

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class387 · 21 Aug 2017

leomartin125 said:
So how come these 2Z services took place last week? Out in passenger service for one day, next minute back on test again and withdrawn from passenger service. I don't understand what is going on, whether the franchise is causing the issues or whether they just aren't ready yet? Can someone enlighten me?

I think it was just so that SWT could say that they introduced the new trains.

pompeyfan · 21 Aug 2017

Siemens have only officially handed over 2 units so far. Worth remembering they don't want these units sitting down on the Queenstown ladder during Waterloo works either where they're new and possibly quite unreliable with teething problems.

Monty · 21 Aug 2017

pompeyfan said:
Siemens have only officially handed over 2 units so far. Worth remembering they don't want these units sitting down on the Queenstown ladder during Waterloo works either where they're new and possibly quite unreliable with teething problems.

I'm not sure they have been officially handed over, last weeks passenger run was purely to meet franchise commitments.

pompeyfan · 21 Aug 2017

Monty said:
I'm not sure they have been officially handed over, last weeks passenger run was purely to meet franchise commitments.

I remember reading that 2 units (I think 7003 and 7005) had been officially accepted into traffic.

Carntyne · 21 Aug 2017

They were accepted last week.

AM9 · 21 Aug 2017

pompeyfan said:
... (I think 7003 and 7005) ...

Is this part of a campaign to start numbering SR style?

bb21 · 21 Aug 2017

AM9 said:
Is this part of a campaign to start numbering SR style?

They will always be used as 4-digit numbers internally, I suspect.

hwl · 21 Aug 2017

bb21 said:
They will always be used as 4-digit numbers internally, I suspect.

The new Aventras to be 7x1xxx, 7x2xxx or 7x3xxx then...

158 88xx
159 9xxx
444 4xxx
450 0xxx
455 5xxx
456 6xxx
458 85xx
707 7xxx

AverageTD · 22 Aug 2017

At the moment I beleive they are running Staines-Reading so when will they expand out to other places or do SWR want to keep them hidden for the moment

Driver@swt · 22 Aug 2017

Monty said:
I'm not sure they have been officially handed over, last weeks passenger run was purely to meet franchise commitments.

Incorrect, they were accepted by Angel trains on the Wednesday evening (003 and 005), and ran the next day in service for SWT.
They are not running through the Waterloo blockade for obvious reasons, too risky having one pair of new trains out there.
The next units (004 and 006) are a week or two behind the first too, unless of any unexpected issues, so watch this space for late August to early September!
Of course the aim was to have a pair in service whilst still with SWT.

Driver@swt · 22 Aug 2017

AverageTD said:
At the moment I beleive they are running Staines-Reading so when will they expand out to other places or do SWR want to keep them hidden for the moment

It is all down to available pathways, different routes some days of the week and especially weekends.

absolutelymilk · 29 Aug 2017

Is there a date for 707s to enter service with SWR now the Waterloo blockade is over?

Matt Taylor · 29 Aug 2017

Yes, next Tuesday on the Reading and Windsor lines. Two ten car diagrams.

MatthewRead · 29 Aug 2017

Matt Taylor said:
Yes, next Tuesday on the Reading and Windsor lines. Two ten car diagrams.

But I thought they weren't destined for the Reading services

paok · 30 Aug 2017

Looks like these ones: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/WNT/2017/09/05/0000-2359?stp=V&show=all&order=wtt

JonathanH · 30 Aug 2017

paok said:
Looks like these ones: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/WNT/2017/09/05/0000-2359?stp=V&show=all&order=wtt

I don't think those particular trains having variation changes is anything to do with 707s. More likely, based on past practice, is that you should be looking for a diagram which is out and back from Wimbledon Park depot / sidings.

pompeyfan · 30 Aug 2017

Been informed of the following

Tuesday 5th September onwards - SX only.

(Subject to alteration & cancellation at short notice)

[10 car 707]
Wim PD. 05+02 5U07
Waterloo 05.58 2U07
Windsor 07.23 2U14
Waterloo 08.28 2U17
Windsor 09.53 2U24
Waterloo 10.58 2U27
Windsor 12.23 2U34
Waterloo 13.28 2U37
Windsor 14.53 2U44
Waterloo 15.58 2U47
Windsor 17.23 2U54
Waterloo 18.28 2U57
Windsor 19.53 2U64
Waterloo 20.58 2U67
Windsor 22.23 2U74
Waterloo 23+30 5Y79

GW43125 · 30 Aug 2017

Have any more units been released yet or is it just the two that have already appeared?

spark001uk · 30 Aug 2017

GW43125 said:
Have any more units been released yet or is it just the two that have already appeared?

Aside from 003 and 005, the guy on the one I rode said they are trying to get another pair accepted soon, and it's probably going to be 004 and 006.

spark001uk · 30 Aug 2017

Actually that's a point, what's happening with 1 and 2? Are they getting their pans removed before acceptance? Did they make that test run from Farnham to Peterborough in the end?

SpacePhoenix · 30 Aug 2017

Will this be a genuine proper entry into service or just a one off like last time (franchise commitment?)?

D365 · 30 Aug 2017

SpacePhoenix said:
Will this be a genuine proper entry into service or just a one off like last time (franchise commitment?)?

Will what be?

MCR247 · 30 Aug 2017

SpacePhoenix said:
Will this be a genuine proper entry into service or just a one off like last time (franchise commitment?)?

What? Were they not 'genuinely' and 'properly' in service last time?

I don't follow

Goldfish62 · 31 Aug 2017

MCR247 said:
What? Were they not 'genuinely' and 'properly' in service last time? I don't follow

They were running non publicised journeys not in the public timetable, so not really.

AverageTD · 31 Aug 2017

pompeyfan said:
Been informed of the following

Is this confirmed yet or just likely to happen?

HeelBurton · 2 Sep 2017

The drivers have been made aware that they will be driving 707's on duties concerned

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Class455 · 2 Sep 2017

HeelBurton said:
The drivers have been made aware that they will be driving 707's on duties concerned

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I wonder if they will now have SWR branding considering they are just sitting at Wimbledon or Clapham Yard.

43096 · 2 Sep 2017

HeelBurton said:
The drivers have been made aware that they will be driving 707's on duties concerned

Has anyone told the guards????

Feathers44 · 2 Sep 2017

Class455 said:
I wonder if they will now have SWR branding considering they are just sitting at Wimbledon or Clapham Yard.

Didn't notice any when I saw them this morning (but I obviously didn't see the side of all units).

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