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Old 27th December 2016, 20:49   #1
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Default Lines Not Nationalised in 1948

I read with interest that the Talyllyn Railway was never nationalised - it effectively passed directly from its original private operator to its current one in 1957.

Can someone tell me what other lines were left out of the 1948 nationalisation? I'm particularly interested in whether any standard gauge lines remained in private operation, or how long privately operated lines continued into the BR era.

Equally interesting would be any minor railways that weren't merged into the big four in 1923.

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Old 27th December 2016, 20:54   #2
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The various London railways like the Metropolitan and District didn't join the Big 4 but they did become part of what is now the London Underground.
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The Liverpool Over Head railway was never nationalised and closed in 1956.
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The Manchester Ship Canal Railway was never nationalised and may be the biggest not to do so.
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Old 27th December 2016, 20:57   #5
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The various London railways like the Metropolitan and District didn't join the Big 4 but they did become part of what is now the London Underground.
I guess another thread like this could be tramway and urban systems that stayed in private control rather than becoming municipal.
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Derwent Valley Light Railway, remained private and in operation until 1981.
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Old 27th December 2016, 20:59   #7
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I believe some of the London Docks and Harbour lines weren't absorbed, and I think that besides the Ship Canal, the Manchester Trafford Park network remained independent.
I suspect there were probably other dock and industrial estate networks elsewhere
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Old 27th December 2016, 21:40   #8
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(From RCTS Locomotive Stock Books):-

Ashover Light Railway (closed 1950) **
Corringham Light Railway (closed to passengers 1952; became an industrial line.)
Easingwold Railway. (Closed 1957; loco hired from BR in last few years)
Festiniog Railway **
North Sunderland Railway (Closed 1951, loco hired from BR in last few years)
Barrington Light Railway
Ravenglass & Eskdale Railway **
Romney Hythe & Dymchurch Railway **
Snailbeach District Tramways ** (Closed 1950)
Snowdon Mountain Railway **
Stocksbridge Railway
Tal-y-Llyn Railway **
Leighton Buzzard Light Railway **
Wissington Light Railway. (Became British Sugar Corporation industrial line, 1957)

** - Narrow guage.

plus, government owned, but never part of BR:
Longmoor Military Railway & other military systems.

Railways in Northern Ireland & Isle of Man were also excluded from the nationalisation scheme, but Northern Ireland lines subsequently became part of Ulster Transport Authority (UTA) .
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Old 27th December 2016, 21:47   #9
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when was the Admiralty railway at Portland closed? Presumably thats another one?
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Old 27th December 2016, 21:57   #10
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Was the Cromford and High peak railway nationalised?
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What rationale was there for the exclusion of these lines? I can understand why narrow gauge lines such as the Ffestiniog and Talyllyn would be overlooked, but there are many names in Bevan Price's list that I'm unfamiliar with. (Would some have been separate railways, unconnected to the rest of the network?)
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Old 27th December 2016, 22:11   #12
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There were also many industrial lines, including of course those operated by the National Coal Board - which were nationalised but didn't come under the umbrella of British Railways.
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Was the Cromford and High peak railway nationalised?
Yes. Indeed it was closed by BR in 1967. For a while class 08's were trialed on the route. Some of the private sidings didn't last very long at all before the route was closed.
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The Stocksbridge Line is interesting. It could be quite successful today as the bus/tram option is a bit slow into Sheffield City Centre/Meadowhall. Obviously Tata steel would have to allow a station to be built at their sidings next to the new retail park.
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Old 27th December 2016, 23:07   #15
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It is a single track at Stocksbridge?
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