On the All-Wales Express

merlodlliw · 15th May 2012, 06:33

Some good pics here of the 67

this weeks http://www.nwrail.org.uk/nwnews.htm

Bob

PaxVobiscum · 15th May 2012, 07:58

Great photos there.

Funny how the scenery around Hargrave is so distinctive. I've only done one return journey on the Holyhead line but I recognised that bit immediately before reading the caption.

SprinterMan · 15th May 2012, 23:39

http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C36223/2012/5/15

Apparently WAG2 starts back from Swansea now!
Does this mean that the 175 doesn't sit out of use all day?

Adam

sonic2009 · 16th May 2012, 00:13

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Originally Posted by SprinterMan

http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C36223/2012/5/15

Apparently WAG2 starts back from Swansea now!
Does this mean that the 175 doesn't sit out of use all day?

Adam

According to the tech information the timing's are for a class 158.

SprinterMan · 16th May 2012, 00:16

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Originally Posted by sonic2009

According to the tech information the timing's are for a class 158.

It says that, but on OTT 158 means 158/170/175. It is a 100mph schedule, so it is a 175.

Adam

sonic2009 · 16th May 2012, 00:24

It appears the 175 may sit in Canton until 1500, then form

5B67 Canton Sidings 1500 to Cardiff Central Pl 3A 1505
2B67 Cardiff Central PL 3a 1514 to Swansea Pl 4 1617

then form the 1710 to Holyhead.

merlodlliw · 16th May 2012, 06:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic2009

It appears the 175 may sit in Canton until 1500, then form

5B67 Canton Sidings 1500 to Cardiff Central Pl 3A 1505
2B67 Cardiff Central PL 3a 1514 to Swansea Pl 4 1617

then form the 1710 to Holyhead.

At last, its a franchise 175 doing franchise work,looks very much like WG have listened. Now one wonders if the return premier service to Holyhead in Sept will follow on from Swansea,In my opinion having trains, franchise or OA just left at Canton for what would have been eight hours in Sept was ridiculous.
One wonders if ATW are paying the rail access charges to Swansea for the 175.
Anybody seen the ATW timetable on this happening,

Bob

SprinterMan · 16th May 2012, 16:49

We need to check if its the same 175 working it in both directions now, because the 175 may not just sit out of use all day now, which is alot better for everyone.
Adam

anthony263 · 16th May 2012, 16:50

WAG2 is only supposed to be running from Swansea for this week.

SprinterMan · 16th May 2012, 16:55

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Originally Posted by anthony263

WAG2 is only supposed to be running from Swansea for this week.

Oh.

Looks like we got excited over nothing. Well spotted anyway. Do we know why it's running from Swansea this week?

anthony263 · 16th May 2012, 17:21

No idea to be honest although yes I do agree it certainly makes better use of the stock.

Problem is that the loco hauled rake would be unable to keep to the times of the 17:10 Swansea - Cardiff swanline unless mk3's fitted with powered doors and even then its going to be a bit tight.

That said the commuters using the 17:10 Cardiff service from Swansea are certainly not complaining and the 175 is managing to keep to the timetable well unlike the class 153's which are bloody useless on that service.

Greenback · 16th May 2012, 18:16

Interesting. Tonight was my first trip on the 1705 ex Swansea to Fishguard, and I noticed a 175 sitting in paltform 4. I wondered what it was doing there,e specially as 1705 in paltform 3 was a 150! For a second I thought I might have sleepwalked on to the wrong train, but the guard's announcement soon reassured me!

One woman on the Fishguard service wanted to go to Haverfordwest, and was rather surprised to learn the timetabels had changed this week...

PHILIPE · 16th May 2012, 18:37

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Originally Posted by anthony263

WAG2 is only supposed to be running from Swansea for this week.

Running as such just for this week under Short Term Planning arrangements. Reason not known.

jones_bangor · 16th May 2012, 22:08

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Originally Posted by PHILIPE

Running as such just for this week under Short Term Planning arrangements. Reason not known.

WAG 2 was a 3 car 175 from Bangor this morning, usually a 2 car?

merlodlliw · 17th May 2012, 06:21

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Originally Posted by jones_bangor

WAG 2 was a 3 car 175 from Bangor this morning, usually a 2 car?

I have seen it into Wrexham as a three car a while back,politics aside I know WG are only paying for a two car.
If its only for a week, yes better use of stock,I still wonder if the DVT/67 will be laid up at Canton for eight hours from September, time will tell.

Bob

15th May 2012, 06:33	#1
merlodlliw Established Member Join Date: 8 Mar 2009 Location: Wrexham/ Denbighshire /Flintshire triangle Posts: 4,151	On the All-Wales Express Some good pics here of the 67 this weeks http://www.nwrail.org.uk/nwnews.htm Bob

16th May 2012, 00:24	#6
sonic2009 The Secret Warrior Established Member Join Date: 19 Jan 2010 Location: Atherstone Posts: 3,109	It appears the 175 may sit in Canton until 1500, then form 5B67 Canton Sidings 1500 to Cardiff Central Pl 3A 1505 2B67 Cardiff Central PL 3a 1514 to Swansea Pl 4 1617 then form the 1710 to Holyhead. __________________ I'm a Real Human, as well as a Cartoon Character

15th May 2012, 07:58	#2
PaxVobiscum ex-Subway clippie Member Join Date: 4 Feb 2012 Location: Glasgow Posts: 635	Great photos there. Funny how the scenery around Hargrave is so distinctive. I've only done one return journey on the Holyhead line but I recognised that bit immediately before reading the caption.

15th May 2012, 23:39	#3
SprinterMan Established Member Join Date: 20 Sep 2010 Location: Bangor (Gwynedd) or Sudbury (Suffolk) Posts: 1,653	http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C36223/2012/5/15 Apparently WAG2 starts back from Swansea now! Does this mean that the 175 doesn't sit out of use all day? Adam

16th May 2012, 16:49	#8
SprinterMan Established Member Join Date: 20 Sep 2010 Location: Bangor (Gwynedd) or Sudbury (Suffolk) Posts: 1,653	We need to check if its the same 175 working it in both directions now, because the 175 may not just sit out of use all day now, which is alot better for everyone. Adam

16th May 2012, 16:50	#9
anthony263 Established Member Join Date: 19 Aug 2008 Location: South Wales Posts: 3,972	WAG2 is only supposed to be running from Swansea for this week.

16th May 2012, 17:21	#11
anthony263 Established Member Join Date: 19 Aug 2008 Location: South Wales Posts: 3,972	No idea to be honest although yes I do agree it certainly makes better use of the stock. Problem is that the loco hauled rake would be unable to keep to the times of the 17:10 Swansea - Cardiff swanline unless mk3's fitted with powered doors and even then its going to be a bit tight. That said the commuters using the 17:10 Cardiff service from Swansea are certainly not complaining and the 175 is managing to keep to the timetable well unlike the class 153's which are bloody useless on that service.

16th May 2012, 18:16	#12
Greenback Moderator Join Date: 9 Aug 2009 Location: Llanelli Posts: 9,459	Interesting. Tonight was my first trip on the 1705 ex Swansea to Fishguard, and I noticed a 175 sitting in paltform 4. I wondered what it was doing there,e specially as 1705 in paltform 3 was a 150! For a second I thought I might have sleepwalked on to the wrong train, but the guard's announcement soon reassured me! One woman on the Fishguard service wanted to go to Haverfordwest, and was rather surprised to learn the timetabels had changed this week...