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Old 14th November 2016, 17:58   #1
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Default Vosa website has been replaced...

https://www.tan.gov.uk/Operator/auth...vosa_login.asp

Has been replaced by this..

https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...-commissioners

It seems some stuff is missing such as same day bus registration..
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Old 14th November 2016, 21:20   #2
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Don't seem to be able to see all bus registrations received / approved across a region, on a specific (or indeed any date) as you used to.

Searching by operator licence number (once you have memorised them) brings up a random list, not in date order, not in type order, not in route order, not in registration number order. Even if you select 'all cancellations' or whatever, they are still in a random order. No facility to flit from one to the next.

Still waiting for last Fridays N&P for West Midlands so don't know if it is still being produced.

An improvement would have been being able to see all details of a registration i.e. the route and timetable details. No such luck.

Perhaps there are some improvements but I haven't found any.

Considering how fantastic the Companies House system is, makes one wonder who did this. Should their reputation be severely tarnished or merely unbuffed and in need of some Brasso?

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Old 14th November 2016, 22:38   #3
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I did ask about " seeing all bus registrations received / approved across a region, on a specific (or indeed any date) as you used to."

Im lead to believe the website is still not fully operation, so there claim, I will try again tomorrow, if not I will be complaining.

I cant understand how this is been allowed since control over all aspect of Scottish operations belong to Holyrood, while its all based on Westminster website...
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Old 14th November 2016, 23:21   #4
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early days there is a link to say what u think, I filled mine in, the thing I don't understand is why they didn't just move the old features to the new website.
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Old 15th November 2016, 00:06   #5
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It appears that the functionality of the previous site has been completely removed.

I tried to look for a bus operator in one town, it now shows both HGV and PSV operators in the same list.

The site is the most user unfriendly one I have come across in recent years.
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Old 15th November 2016, 00:13   #6
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https://www.tan.gov.uk/Operator/auth...vosa_login.asp

Has been replaced by this..

https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...-commissioners

It seems some stuff is missing such as same day bus registration..
Can you please quote, at least, a summary of what's on those links?

I'm unable to get there via my ancient mobile device.
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Old 15th November 2016, 00:43   #7
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I can't quote since it would just be a complete Pigs ear there actually webpages.

The first link just tell you where you have to look now. its nothing special
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Second link direct you to the new website dealing with all aspect of Traffic Commissioners for Great Britain: which includes the following:
  • Operator licences
  • Apply for an operator licence
  • Manage your operator licence
  • Find lorry or bus operators
  • Check operator licence applications
  • Run a local bus service
  • Find registered local bus services
  • Traffic commissioner public inquiries
  • Office access and opening times

Plus news, documents and contact details, but its unclear what has happened to the same day bus registration database.

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It appears that the functionality of the previous site has been completely removed.

I tried to look for a bus operator in one town, it now shows both HGV and PSV operators in the same list.

The site is the most user unfriendly one I have come across in recent years.
Its been claimed the beta testing/the new website has been running for 6months, I think its a load of hogwash. Personnel if other changes don#t start appearing shortly I would strongly recommend everyone just complain.

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Old 15th November 2016, 01:26   #8
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https://www.vehicle-operator-licensi...s-applications


Type in anything and press search. Then you can search dates! Only problem is you have to put in the operator name or area!

For Licence Type put: "Standard National"
Traffic Area:
Publication Type: N&P


Works quite well actually, a bit more of a pain in the rear but it is workable!
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As Overthewater said you can no longer see which new registrations, cancelled or varied registrations have been accepted by the OTCs office on any particular day. You could also search by traffic area or areas. This function is not avail
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I can't quote since it would just be a complete Pigs ear there actually webpages.

The first link just tell you where you have to look now. its nothing special

Second link direct you to the new website dealing with all aspect of Traffic Commissioners for Great Britain ...
Thanks, that helps. I'll get a proper look later.
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Old 15th November 2016, 10:33   #11
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Looks like it has been released prematurely. The search engine itself produces odd results eg limiting to Scotland and Registered:

East has 74 hits
Coast has 8 hits
East coast has 21 hits - all of the coasts and a selection of easts.

It should either be a Boolean OR giving east coast = 75 or a Boolean AND giving East coast = 7, this seems to be a Boolean MAYBE.
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Its been claimed the beta testing/the new website has been running for 6months, I think its a load of hogwash. Personnel if other changes don#t start appearing shortly I would strongly recommend everyone just complain.
Depends who has been doing the Beta testing of course. They may have a specific use / need and simply did not consider the use / needs of others. Best way would have been to shadow exactly how users interacted with the old system and ensure that the new system did the same.

As I mentioned, the Companies House system is fantastic. I have no professional need to use the system but it gives anyone details of directors, all their current and past companies, links between companies, company accounts and other submitted documentation. A gold mine of information.

Perhaps the TC site will get better. As so little information is given on the website about the changes, it is impossible to know what is lost, missing or awaited, so it is reasonable to criticise that a function has been removed. If it is to be replaced 'soon' then they should tell people.

Just confirms my prejudice that the TC are not the brightest buttons on the uniform.

Use of 'terminal points' as a search function shows how little they understand the garbage data that they receive / hold / publish. A useful function potentially, to get a list of all bus routes registered from Hanley. But when you have to enter, separately, Hanley, Hanly (and many other mis-spellings), Hanley Bus Station, City Centre, City Centre Bus Station, City Centre Interchange, Lichfield street, Lidice way and so on, you hopefully get the picture!

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As Overthewater said you can no longer see which new registrations, cancelled or varied registrations have been accepted by the OTCs office on any particular day. You could also search by traffic area or areas. This function is not avail
You can!
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You can!
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Old 15th November 2016, 17:22   #15
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So true.....

It seem we need to complain about this new crap system. I would strongly recommend anyone not happy about these changes to email the following:
EMAIL: Self.service@@otc.gsi.gov.uk

I was told do do this by the people downstairs, Why there can't just import the old system straight onto the new server.
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