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Old 12th March 2017, 12:46   #16
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Well it took less than a week for it to happen to me again. According to today's message from EMT I was travelling illegally when using a Derby to Oakham ticket to exit at Leicester.
Isn't it very common for gates to reject tickets at stations which feature neither as the origin or destination printed/encoded on the ticket?

The displayed "not valid at this location" message on some gates is bad though, as opposed to a generic message such as "seek assistance".
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Old 12th March 2017, 13:48   #17
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Well it took less than a week for it to happen to me again. According to today's message from EMT I was travelling illegally when using a Derby to Oakham ticket to exit at Leicester.
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Old 12th March 2017, 14:02   #18
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The Oxford Road ones are dodgy too, rejecting only last week a Liverpool to Manchester advance as 'not valid at this location', and will incorrectly reject B1 Off Peak tickets at will in the afternoon peak period. The person who programmed them did an absolute crap job.
I've had the Oxford Road barrier not let me in on a Levenshulme-Stalybridge ticket before (return portion going back to SYB so break of journey permitted). I'd cycled up from Levenshulme having missed my first train, in order to catch my connection.
The Manchester barriers will reject any ticket that's already been through a barrier facing the same way (ie trying to prevent re-use of tickets), which makes sense I suppose - I wonder if you were to leave Victoria and enter Oxford Road en route to Liverpool, how would the MCO barrier react?
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Old 12th March 2017, 14:04   #19
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As that's an unnecessary double back I'm not unduly surprised- only Permitted because of the station group rule which is more useful in the other direction in most cases.
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Old 12th March 2017, 14:40   #20
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g to prevent re-use of tickets), which makes sense I suppose - I wonder if you were to leave Victoria and enter Oxford Road en route to Liverpool, how would the MCO barrier react?
Already had this happen a few times Salford Central -> Birkenhead Central SVR rejected. Bolton -> Birkenhead Central SVR rejected. Salford Central -> Belle Vue CDR rejected. Normally 'not valid at this location'. Also get a 'reject passback' after breaking journey at MCO. It would almost be funny if it weren't so bloody annoying.
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If the barrier is printing a message 'not valid at this location' on a ticket that is valid at the location, you should report that to the company and give them a reasonable deadline to fix it before you escalate the matter to the ORR for investigation as a (fairly straightforward?) breach of the Consumer Regulations - it could lead to some types of people buying a more expensive ticket than necessary.
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Yet more BS from the barriers in Manchester; this time at Victoria. Return portion of a Bolton - Birkenhead SVR, used as far as Manchester on the 14th. Put it through the barriers this morning to be told 'TICKET EXPIRED SEEK ASSISTANCE'. It's getting reported to Northern of course, but it shouldn't be happening in the first place.
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