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Old 17th March 2017, 02:31   #916
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That's quite frankly, a daft idea. Particularly in the peaks that line is well used, and can fill a 5/458. This would also mean that the 7-mile journey from Chertsey to Ashford would require two changes, at Virginia Water and Staines, one of which is currently rather tight.

In the morning, one particular down service will arrive at Egham with a fair number of people standing (there isn't the capacity on the Guildford/Reading services to shift them across), empty out quite a bit and then get to a point where people start to stand. If this were cut back to a VIR<->WYB shuttle it would just be a nightmare.
Nothing to prevent the Waterloo to Reading trains stopping at Ashford to maintain only a single change at Virginia Water. At the moment, the xx05 / xx35 trains from Waterloo to Reading stop at Ashford and some of the up trains from the Camberley line do as well.

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Old 17th March 2017, 11:30   #917
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Nothing to prevent the Waterloo to Reading trains stopping at Ashford to maintain only a single change at Virginia Water. At the moment, the xx05 / xx35 trains from Waterloo to Reading stop at Ashford and some of the up trains from the Camberley line do as well.

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Even outisde the peaks, there are things like school trains which would collapse at this prospect, also how do you propose the Chertsey-Hounslow flow being maintained?
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Old 17th March 2017, 12:09   #918
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Daft idea maybe, but a Weybridge shuttle is how it is specified in the new franchise. There was a couple of pages discussion about it in this thread a few weeks ago.


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Old 17th March 2017, 12:10   #919
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Indeed.
I should hope not.
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Old 17th March 2017, 14:30   #920
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Even outisde the peaks, there are things like school trains which would collapse at this prospect, also how do you propose the Chertsey-Hounslow flow being maintained?
How significant is the current Hounslow to Chertsey flow? I guess it would be maintained in same way any current Hounslow to Windsor flow is currently maintained - ie with a change of trains.

While direct services between Weybridge and Hounslow have been in place since 2003, first by diversion of off-peak trains to Reading then by the conversion of these trains to stopping services they haven't always existed.
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Old 17th March 2017, 15:31   #921
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How significant is the current Hounslow to Chertsey flow? I guess it would be maintained in same way any current Hounslow to Windsor flow is currently maintained - ie with a change of trains.

While direct services between Weybridge and Hounslow have been in place since 2003, first by diversion of off-peak trains to Reading then by the conversion of these trains to stopping services they haven't always existed.
I think the poor connections at Weybridge put many people off going via that way.
It is normal to have a 4 minute connection between an arrival via Chertsey and the Basingstoke stopper, which isn't shown in journey planners as the minimum connection time is 5 minutes. Therefore journey planners show a 20 minute wait for the Woking 455 stopper.
In the other direction, the Basingstoke stopper narrowly misses the service via Chertsey, so you have to use the 455 stopper with a 20 minute connection (at least you can sit on the Chertsey unit). As things stand, the triangle for Chertsey can't depart later as the incoming train is waiting outside.

It is often faster (or at least as fast) to go via Clapham Junction for stations west of Weybridge. A few flows like Hounslow to Guildford do have slightly cheaper "via Virginia Water" tickets (in addition to the usual "Not via London" and "Any Permitted"), but I'd be shocked if more than a very handful of people choose to go that way as the price difference is very little.
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Old 19th March 2017, 00:07   #922
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I think the poor connections at Weybridge put many people off going via that way.
I was just about to say the same for Waterloo passengers on the Chertsey branch. It is a quicker journey via Weybridge, but I've noticed more people seem to be going via VW and change onto an up Reading now (myself included), because Weybridge is not the best for connections (in either direction of the mainline really). The arrival into Weybridge off the branch is booked 07 and 37, which annoyingly misses the up Basing by 1 minute, meaning getting the stopper at 12 or 42. Trouble is the branch service into Weybridge has often lost several minutes by the time it gets to Chertsey etc, meaning missing the stopper, and having to wait another 20 odd minutes for the next up Basing.
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Old 20th March 2017, 00:48   #923
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Anyone know what these are? They're taking the TL route. My first thought was either a 700 or 707001/002?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/trai...03/20/advanced

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/trai...03/21/advanced

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Old 20th March 2017, 09:54   #924
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Anyone know what these are? They're taking the TL route. My first thought was either a 700 or 707001/002?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/trai...03/20/advanced

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/trai...03/21/advanced
I'll put money on that being 707001 & 707002 heading off for their ac testing.plus also makes space for another delivery from Germany ready for testing.
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Old 20th March 2017, 12:04   #925
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I'll put money on that being 707001 & 707002 heading off for their ac testing.plus also makes space for another delivery from Germany ready for testing.
Be a nice photo to get 707s thru the tunnel, can't do it that late tho unfortunately or I'd never get home.
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Old 20th March 2017, 13:22   #926
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Just seen 001/002 (I think - definitely a 707 but my photo of the front is a bit fuzzy) at Haslemere.

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Just seen 001 at Haslemere.
Yep that'll be the 5Q11 run to Petersfield. Then 5Q14 return journey. Then it'll do that AC test run to Ferme Pk tonight, if that's what that working is.
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Old 20th March 2017, 20:23   #928
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Anyone know what these are? They're taking the TL route. My first thought was either a 700 or 707001/002?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/trai...03/20/advanced

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/trai...03/21/advanced
didn't realise the link was now in use
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Old 21st March 2017, 00:07   #929
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I'll put money on that being 707001 & 707002 heading off for their ac testing.plus also makes space for another delivery from Germany ready for testing.
It doesn't seem much of a slot for any significant testing, looks like they are due to return to Wimbledon after only 6 hours.
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A colleague just saw 707001&002 head north through Blackfriars.
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