The Dr Syn Railtour - 26/05

CraigS · 26th May 2007, 18:17

Hi all. Today I photographed 66035 + 66237 top and tailing the Dr Syn railtour from London Victoria to the Isle of Grain, Folkestone Harbour and Dungeness. I visited 5 locations which were Westernhanger, Folkestone Harbour, A bridge on the Harbour branch, Dungeness and Appledore.

66035 departing Harbour @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647662.html
66237 departing Harbour @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647673.html

66237 arriving at Dungy @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647677.html
66237 departing Dungy @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647679.html

66237 at Appledore @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647660.html
66035 at Appledore @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647688.html

Rest of pics @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/c1287653.html

Comments welcome.

Dennis · 26th May 2007, 19:13

When I click on some of the thumbnail, I get a message saying the image has been moved or deleted.

Love the area around Dungeness - the landscape is unique.

CraigS · 26th May 2007, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Dennis

When I click on some of the thumbnail, I get a message saying the image has been moved or deleted.

Love the area around Dungeness - the landscape is unique.

I'm going to contact fotopic about this message that is coming up on my photos. Thing is I haven't moved or deleted any of them.

I too love the Dungeness area especially when the weather is hot and when there is no clouds.

nath9425 · 26th May 2007, 19:30

I have never seen a Class 66 Railtour why on earth would you want a 66 pulling you on traction! It baffles me!

CraigS · 26th May 2007, 19:48

It baffles me too. 66s weren't disigned for railtours because they haven't got ETH and they are limited to 75/65 MPH. I've noticed that all of UK Railtour's tours are 66 operated. Why couldn't EWS use 37/4s or 67s on it. They did with the Bird n Birch using 37411 + 37425.

The only time when I would want a 66 hauling me would be in 40 - 50 years time when they being replaced and withdrawn.

3 years ago there was a railtour that had the same route as the Dr Syn and that had top and tailed 66s.

devon_metro · 26th May 2007, 19:52

Its class 66 because its not a basher tour and more of a sightseeing tour!

CraigS · 26th May 2007, 19:57

Looking at the people on board the train, they looked as if they were sightseeing. The tour was sold out aswell.

thefab444 · 26th May 2007, 20:04

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Originally Posted by Liam

Its class 66 because its not a basher tour and more of a sightseeing tour!

Are there not enough 67s for this purpose?

It might, subtily (sp), also serve a purpose for a few people who are desperate for 66 haulage.

The odd VSOE has also been hauled a 66, or 59.

Craig · 26th May 2007, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigS

It baffles me too. 66s weren't disigned for railtours because they haven't got ETH and they are limited to 75/65 MPH. I've noticed that all of UK Railtour's tours are 66 operated. Why couldn't EWS use 37/4s or 67s on it. They did with the Bird n Birch using 37411 + 37425.

UK Railtours seem to run tours aimed at line bashers and the general public, so the traction doesn't really matter as much. Operationally it's probably cheaper and easier to use 66s as there's only a handful of 37/4s around and 67s have a higher route availability.

CraigS · 26th May 2007, 20:14

I thought that the use of 66s would be cheaper and easier.

Coxster · 26th May 2007, 20:39

I like the 66 framed between the trees: http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647674.html

CraigS · 26th May 2007, 20:44

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Originally Posted by Coxster

I like the 66 framed between the trees: http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647674.html

Glad you like it.

theblackwatch · 26th May 2007, 20:56

UK railtours didn't ask for any particular motive power on the tour - though John Farrow expected it to be a pair of 66s when I spoke to him the day UK Railtours opened for business. To have specified motive power would have cost more money - which from a business point of view would have been totally unnecessary as the train filled anyway. (Remember, John Farrow is a businessman, and a successful one too). I suspect 67s may not be cleared for all the lines the tour did anyway.

Richard Armstrong · 26th May 2007, 21:33

Yeah, you've done a good job. Some interestings shots at some interesting locations.

CraigS · 27th May 2007, 08:44

Thanks everyone for all the feedback and info.

26th May 2007, 18:17	#1
CraigS Established Member Join Date: 2 Apr 2007 Location: 74E Posts: 1,986	The Dr Syn Railtour - 26/05 Hi all. Today I photographed 66035 + 66237 top and tailing the Dr Syn railtour from London Victoria to the Isle of Grain, Folkestone Harbour and Dungeness. I visited 5 locations which were Westernhanger, Folkestone Harbour, A bridge on the Harbour branch, Dungeness and Appledore. 66035 departing Harbour @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647662.html 66237 departing Harbour @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647673.html 66237 arriving at Dungy @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647677.html 66237 departing Dungy @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647679.html 66237 at Appledore @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647660.html 66035 at Appledore @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647688.html Rest of pics @ http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/c1287653.html Comments welcome. __________________ CraigS

26th May 2007, 19:48	#5
CraigS Established Member Join Date: 2 Apr 2007 Location: 74E Posts: 1,986	It baffles me too. 66s weren't disigned for railtours because they haven't got ETH and they are limited to 75/65 MPH. I've noticed that all of UK Railtour's tours are 66 operated. Why couldn't EWS use 37/4s or 67s on it. They did with the Bird n Birch using 37411 + 37425. The only time when I would want a 66 hauling me would be in 40 - 50 years time when they being replaced and withdrawn. 3 years ago there was a railtour that had the same route as the Dr Syn and that had top and tailed 66s. __________________ CraigS

26th May 2007, 19:52	#6
devon_metro Established Member Join Date: 11 Oct 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 7,519	Its class 66 because its not a basher tour and more of a sightseeing tour! __________________ South West Railways

26th May 2007, 19:57	#7
CraigS Established Member Join Date: 2 Apr 2007 Location: 74E Posts: 1,986	Looking at the people on board the train, they looked as if they were sightseeing. The tour was sold out aswell. __________________ CraigS

26th May 2007, 20:14	#10
CraigS Established Member Join Date: 2 Apr 2007 Location: 74E Posts: 1,986	I thought that the use of 66s would be cheaper and easier. __________________ CraigS

26th May 2007, 19:13	#2
Dennis Click to edit Established Member Join Date: 8 Aug 2005 Location: Trowbridge Posts: 2,602	When I click on some of the thumbnail, I get a message saying the image has been moved or deleted. Love the area around Dungeness - the landscape is unique.

26th May 2007, 19:30	#4
nath9425 Member Join Date: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Milepost 84 Chiltern Mainline Posts: 759	I have never seen a Class 66 Railtour why on earth would you want a 66 pulling you on traction! It baffles me!

26th May 2007, 20:39	#11
Coxster Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: 9 Jun 2005 Posts: 9,242	I like the 66 framed between the trees: http://craigrailpics.fotopic.net/p41647674.html

26th May 2007, 20:56	#13
theblackwatch www.deltic.co.uk Moderator Join Date: 15 Feb 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 5,899	UK railtours didn't ask for any particular motive power on the tour - though John Farrow expected it to be a pair of 66s when I spoke to him the day UK Railtours opened for business. To have specified motive power would have cost more money - which from a business point of view would have been totally unnecessary as the train filled anyway. (Remember, John Farrow is a businessman, and a successful one too). I suspect 67s may not be cleared for all the lines the tour did anyway.

26th May 2007, 21:33	#14
Richard Armstrong Established Member Join Date: 8 Jun 2005 Location: Harpenden, Hertfordshire Posts: 1,904	Yeah, you've done a good job. Some interestings shots at some interesting locations. __________________ Richard Photo site \| Video site

27th May 2007, 08:44	#15
CraigS Established Member Join Date: 2 Apr 2007 Location: 74E Posts: 1,986	Thanks everyone for all the feedback and info. __________________ CraigS