[BVE] BVE 4 in new display resolutions - Page 3

Tom B · 31st August 2007, 21:40

Hi

I've been doing a bit of experimentation with this using a plasma screen with native resolution 1360 x 768. Using the graphics card tools it is being run with a 90 degree pivot i.e. on its side. However, when BVE is run with these settings, it is very unstable and crashes after a couple of stations. Has anybody else had any similar symptoms? I was using the first version of the program and subsequent releases may have run better.

Cheers

Tom

reschanger · 31st August 2007, 22:33

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Originally Posted by Tom B

I've been doing a bit of experimentation with this using a plasma screen with native resolution 1360 x 768. Using the graphics card tools it is being run with a 90 degree pivot i.e. on its side. However, when BVE is run with these settings, it is very unstable and crashes after a couple of stations.

So when running a 1360x768 screen 90° pivoted, the resolution would be 768x1360 (because it's on its side) and the corresponding aspect ratio would be 0.5647059. However, neither 1360x768 nor 768x1360 should be a resolution your graphics card would natively support (it's non-standard), so I guess you ran the whole thing in fullscreen then and it became unstable because of that incompatibility. That's how I would explain it. For a list of compatible resolutions just open the properties of the desktop (right click -> properties), go to the right-most tab and see what is selectable (applies to Windows XP). If you're using window mode or I got the whole idea wrong, then I still practiced my imagination well.

Tom B · 1st September 2007, 07:43

Hi

You're pretty much spot on. I tried it both in Windowed and in Full Screen - the crashing was in fullscreen, windowed was very jerky. That's a thought, I'd not considered the graphics card, will look into it. I suppose it's an occupational hazard of using a funny shaped screen!

dennis63uk · 1st September 2007, 08:58

Best resolution i can run in with TFT Monitors here is 1024 by 768 32bit in full screen mode. One monitor is running in VGA and the other one in DVI which is capable of receiving HDTV as have been experimenting with it. In any other resolution BVE 4.2 crashes on me

reschanger · 1st September 2007, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Tom B

I suppose it's an occupational hazard of using a funny shaped screen!

You might also want to try putting christmas-tree-shaped CDs into your CD ROM drive and see if it starts spinning or just breaking.

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Originally Posted by dennis63uk

Best resolution i can run in with TFT Monitors here is 1024 by 768 32bit in full screen mode.

Interesting, because we couldn't have don THAT before.

Ok, and now seriously.

I have problems imagining all of that. And you're not the only ones reporting that BVE crashed. How exactly does BVE "crash". Do you get an error message when starting, do you see at least something on screen, can you drive for a while and then when you least expected it, etc. That would be interesting now.

I probably can only say the thing one more time, hoping that's what's causing the problems. In fullscreen, the resolution can be arbitrarily set in the tool but must still be supported by the graphics card (and monitor) for it to properly work (the tool does not check against that). The easiest way of finding that out would probably have to be XP's desktop properties (right tab then) and looking what is available from the slider.

Tom B · 1st September 2007, 10:27

It generally works for a short while, then crashes - exactly where you least expect it. Leaving Belsize Park on the Northern having started there, for example - nothing there which is special or out of the ordinary. Running it unpivoted seems to be fine, so as you say it may well be that asking it to pivot as well is causing the gfx card to throw the dummy out of the pram. The crash takes the form of freezing followed a few seconds later by a BSOD and reboot. I'll take a look at the graphics card and let you know.

reschanger · 1st September 2007, 10:53

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Originally Posted by Tom B

The crash takes the form of freezing followed a few seconds later by a BSOD and reboot.

Blue Screens of Death are only possible in Window XP when in kernel mode. Programs run in user mode. The only things that run in kernel mode are device drivers, so it seems like a buggy driver to me. Try downloading a new driver (or if you have the newest then try an older one). A longer while ago I also had some random crashes in BVE and it resulted from a buggy sound driver. Updating the driver solved the problem for me.

Muppet · 1st September 2007, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Bill EWS

Thanks Muppet. I don't have MSN running on my computer. Perhaps another programme is causing the same problem!

Cheers.

BilllEWS.

If you got any other applications running in the background try turning them off to see if it solves the flickering

devon_metro · 2nd September 2007, 13:19

I got plenty of XP blue screens running the internet!

FusionRail · 6th September 2007, 20:42

thanks for this.. it really looks better on my 19" highdef monitor.. and its brilliant in window mode as i can have it any size depending on what im doing. cheers

reschanger · 11th September 2007, 23:45

Now isn't this interesting: Someone translated the program into Chinese and hosted it on their website. I never really thought about the possibility of translating it for users who don't speak English, but obviously someone felt it was necessary. Releasing the source code has therefore finally paid off. See http://www.konkyu.net/ for that purpose...

Richard Armstrong · 27th September 2007, 17:58

This worked well before but it's now cocked up on me, when I use it, the sim is very very slow, about a frame every 5 seconds. Any ideas?

rocky4427 · 26th October 2007, 00:55

can you give me an example on how to put new display resolutions in my BVE4 folder pls

D306 · 26th October 2007, 08:14

install the program into the normal BVE4 folder, then when you want to change it, you need to go into the destination folder, then the installer is in there under a folder called reschanger.

Tom B · 26th October 2007, 08:39

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Originally Posted by rocky4427

can you give me an example on how to put new display resolutions in my BVE4 folder pls

This is the second time you've made a post like this - it explains quite clearly how to use the program, it's a very simple application to use.

31st August 2007, 21:40	#31
Tom B Lord High Executioner Established Member Join Date: 27 Jul 2005 Location: Edinburgh/Doncaster Posts: 3,889	Hi I've been doing a bit of experimentation with this using a plasma screen with native resolution 1360 x 768. Using the graphics card tools it is being run with a 90 degree pivot i.e. on its side. However, when BVE is run with these settings, it is very unstable and crashes after a couple of stations. Has anybody else had any similar symptoms? I was using the first version of the program and subsequent releases may have run better. Cheers Tom __________________ Tom B

1st September 2007, 07:43	#33
Tom B Lord High Executioner Established Member Join Date: 27 Jul 2005 Location: Edinburgh/Doncaster Posts: 3,889	Hi You're pretty much spot on. I tried it both in Windowed and in Full Screen - the crashing was in fullscreen, windowed was very jerky. That's a thought, I'd not considered the graphics card, will look into it. I suppose it's an occupational hazard of using a funny shaped screen! __________________ Tom B

1st September 2007, 10:27	#36
Tom B Lord High Executioner Established Member Join Date: 27 Jul 2005 Location: Edinburgh/Doncaster Posts: 3,889	It generally works for a short while, then crashes - exactly where you least expect it. Leaving Belsize Park on the Northern having started there, for example - nothing there which is special or out of the ordinary. Running it unpivoted seems to be fine, so as you say it may well be that asking it to pivot as well is causing the gfx card to throw the dummy out of the pram. The crash takes the form of freezing followed a few seconds later by a BSOD and reboot. I'll take a look at the graphics card and let you know. __________________ Tom B

2nd September 2007, 13:19	#39
devon_metro Established Member Join Date: 11 Oct 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 7,519	I got plenty of XP blue screens running the internet! __________________ South West Railways

27th September 2007, 17:58	#42
Richard Armstrong Established Member Join Date: 8 Jun 2005 Location: Harpenden, Hertfordshire Posts: 1,902	This worked well before but it's now cocked up on me, when I use it, the sim is very very slow, about a frame every 5 seconds. Any ideas? __________________ Richard Photo site \| Video site

1st September 2007, 08:58	#34
dennis63uk Member of THT and GLF Member Join Date: 10 Sep 2005 Location: Eccles, Greater Manchester Posts: 146	Best resolution i can run in with TFT Monitors here is 1024 by 768 32bit in full screen mode. One monitor is running in VGA and the other one in DVI which is capable of receiving HDTV as have been experimenting with it. In any other resolution BVE 4.2 crashes on me

6th September 2007, 20:42	#40
FusionRail There goes the bonus... Member Join Date: 3 Sep 2007 Location: Shackerstone Posts: 966	thanks for this.. it really looks better on my 19" highdef monitor.. and its brilliant in window mode as i can have it any size depending on what im doing. cheers

11th September 2007, 23:45	#41
reschanger Member Join Date: 27 Aug 2007 Posts: 47	Now isn't this interesting: Someone translated the program into Chinese and hosted it on their website. I never really thought about the possibility of translating it for users who don't speak English, but obviously someone felt it was necessary. Releasing the source code has therefore finally paid off. See http://www.konkyu.net/ for that purpose...

26th October 2007, 00:55	#43
rocky4427 Member Join Date: 7 Oct 2007 Posts: 15	can you give me an example on how to put new display resolutions in my BVE4 folder pls

26th October 2007, 08:14	#44
D306 Established Member Join Date: 9 Apr 2007 Location: somewhere concrete Posts: 2,239	install the program into the normal BVE4 folder, then when you want to change it, you need to go into the destination folder, then the installer is in there under a folder called reschanger.