[BVE] BVE Route Opinions

Jord · 13th October 2007, 21:48

I just thought about making this thread because i was wondering what routes other people would like to see even if it is wishful thinking or maybe one could be built, well here's mine:

1. Rugby - Stafford Via Coventry, Birmingham New St and Wolverhampton:

The WCML between Rugby - Stafford is closed and so all freight and passenger trains are diverted via Birmingham New St. As there has been a fatality on the Bescot line as well, Freight cannot go via Bescot Yard therefore all trains including class 37s, 66s, 31s on a test train and a 50 on a railtour all go through Birmingham and because it's so busy, in your freight train you have to wait at red signals while a path through New Street is made for you, most likely 1 of the 2 middle roads.

2. Exeter - Paignton:

Drive HSTs, class 66s from Goodrington Stone - Exeter where a driver change takes place and a 37 on a railtour down the sea wall then ECS into Goodrington Carridge Sidings, then run round ready for the return trip to Exeter.

3. Carlisle Yard - Blyth Alcan/Tyne Docks:

Drive HSTs between Newcastle and Carlisle on the Tyne Valley diversions and a 37 works Alcan tanks and drive a 66 from Tyne Docks - Carlisle Yard.

EDIT: Thought of another route [see below]

4. Mossend - EWS Aberdeen Gulid St Depot/Waterloo Docks:

Drive class 66s and 37s on the Enterprise north to Aberdeen and also take a small rake of tanks from Guild St - Waterloo Docks and drive a 50 or 31 on a railtour from the driver change at Mossend upto Aberdeen, then run round and take the coaches ECS into Aberdeen Clayhills Depot.

I'll edit this post if i think of any others [so keep coming back to check], but as you can tell this is just a wishful thinking thing and i'm curious on what routes people would like to see in the future.

Turbostar · 13th October 2007, 21:57

Well, if your asking on a personal matter, I would love to see a Exeter-Salisbury-London Waterloo done, but that's wishful thinking, seeing that it takes nearly 4hrs to run, so I would settle for the run to Salisbury, just so as to get to drive a 159 (aka 158 modified) on it. With reguards to Exeter-Paignton, that would be a good one, as we got a 153, a 158/159, HST. Exeter-Plymouth would be good as well. Will need to think up a few others.

Mart

Dennis · 13th October 2007, 22:25

re Exeter-Paignton, discussed in a previous thread; screenies here of Dawlish.

Turbostar · 13th October 2007, 22:28

That's St. Ives-St. Erth & Penzance! Ot's got nothing to do with Dawlish.

Mart

devon_metro · 14th October 2007, 08:31

Clearly you have never been to Dawlish as this http://www.class50-hoover-bashers.co...angstone-c.jpg is Langstone rock...

Regarding Goodrington - Exeter stone. That stopped in 2000!!

I may make the route in KRS though. Looks much easier.

Boxcars · 14th October 2007, 10:59

I would love to drive the Cambridge to King's Cross route. It was once in the pipeline

(see below)

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthre...ight=cambridge

(I'm really looking forward to St Ives to St Erth though)

Turbostar · 14th October 2007, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam

Clearly you have never been to Dawlish as this http://www.class50-hoover-bashers.co...angstone-c.jpg is Langstone rock...

Regarding Goodrington - Exeter stone. That stopped in 2000!!

I may make the route in KRS though. Looks much easier.

FYI, I have been to Dawlish, Teignmouth etc. many of times! Just didn't recognise the pics, assumed they were part of the St. Erth-St. Ives route, ok.

Mart

Darandio · 15th October 2007, 19:44

I would love to see Saltburn to Bishop Auckland so much so that i have been compiling a large database of photographs ready to do it myself. I am currently learning how to build a route on BVE hopefully can start soon.

Hopefully I can make it so services can either terminate at Darlington in platforms 2 & 3 or go the full length to Bishop Auckland via platforms 4 & 4a and will be ideally suited to the upcoming Class 142.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Further to my post above, can anyone tell me what sort of timescale i am looking at?
I should be able to devote around 40-50 hours a week to it.
Also, what are the best tools for the job? I am currently learning Routebuilder.

Dennis · 15th October 2007, 20:24

The timescales needed to build a route will depend not just on it's length but also on the amount of detail added and whether you choose to build all the objects yourself; bit like a model railway, never really finished and always possibilities for enhancement!

It is possible to build basic routes using ready made objects at ~1km per hour although for more detailed routes with custom built objects I'm lucky to get an average of 25m per hour (although I wouldn't describe myself as being a fast worker).

Darandio · 15th October 2007, 20:43

Cheers Dennis. Ideally i would like to custom build as much as possible but also gain permission to borrow where needed i.e catenary for Darlington.
I understand it will take time but with plenty of spare time i am hoping to get a move on.

Jord · 15th October 2007, 21:17

Nobody fancy making number 1 in my original post?

Darandio · 15th October 2007, 21:38

Jord, its opened up that can of worms again mate. I imagine the general reply will be to do it yourself. Although it sounds fantastic, it is a big job. Imagine the credit if you pulled it off though.

Jord · 15th October 2007, 21:52

Would not have any clue of where to start or what to do lol, that's why i asked so someone that does this thing could do it

Techniquest · 16th October 2007, 01:43

Anyone who does would have fun doing New Street...

Mossend - Aberdeen, that's a long route, full of huge route files it would be. Might take far too long to load or may exceed maximum length of file.

Personal wished-for route would have to be Swansea - Paddington or Hereford - Paddington. Anyone who remembers me from UKTS will recall I 'did a GC' and promoted my upcoming routes like wildfire, these routes being two of the three I was going to build, all for MSTS. I've never dropped them completely, just taking my sweet time to get them built and for BVE instead. Indeed, S2P was started in Trainz at one point but I got stuck and can't remembered where I put the CDs for that game...

Hoping to eventually tackle a prototypical route soon. Working on a ficitional BVE4 route, with a few miles of track, a couple of loops, a few stations and a few miles of high-speed running. No scenery though. Will be referring to Dennis' tutorials!

thomasgholmes · 17th October 2007, 19:03

I would like to see the central line on lul
And london liverpool street to shenfield and southend e.t.c

13th October 2007, 21:48	#1
Jord Is Thee No.1 Hornage Fan Established Member Join Date: 20 Jun 2007 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 1,180	BVE Route Opinions I just thought about making this thread because i was wondering what routes other people would like to see even if it is wishful thinking or maybe one could be built, well here's mine: 1. Rugby - Stafford Via Coventry, Birmingham New St and Wolverhampton: The WCML between Rugby - Stafford is closed and so all freight and passenger trains are diverted via Birmingham New St. As there has been a fatality on the Bescot line as well, Freight cannot go via Bescot Yard therefore all trains including class 37s, 66s, 31s on a test train and a 50 on a railtour all go through Birmingham and because it's so busy, in your freight train you have to wait at red signals while a path through New Street is made for you, most likely 1 of the 2 middle roads. 2. Exeter - Paignton: Drive HSTs, class 66s from Goodrington Stone - Exeter where a driver change takes place and a 37 on a railtour down the sea wall then ECS into Goodrington Carridge Sidings, then run round ready for the return trip to Exeter. 3. Carlisle Yard - Blyth Alcan/Tyne Docks: Drive HSTs between Newcastle and Carlisle on the Tyne Valley diversions and a 37 works Alcan tanks and drive a 66 from Tyne Docks - Carlisle Yard. EDIT: Thought of another route [see below] 4. Mossend - EWS Aberdeen Gulid St Depot/Waterloo Docks: Drive class 66s and 37s on the Enterprise north to Aberdeen and also take a small rake of tanks from Guild St - Waterloo Docks and drive a 50 or 31 on a railtour from the driver change at Mossend upto Aberdeen, then run round and take the coaches ECS into Aberdeen Clayhills Depot. I'll edit this post if i think of any others [so keep coming back to check], but as you can tell this is just a wishful thinking thing and i'm curious on what routes people would like to see in the future. Last edited by Jord; 13th October 2007 at 22:06.

14th October 2007, 08:31	#5
devon_metro Established Member Join Date: 11 Oct 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 7,519	Clearly you have never been to Dawlish as this http://www.class50-hoover-bashers.co...angstone-c.jpg is Langstone rock... Regarding Goodrington - Exeter stone. That stopped in 2000!! I may make the route in KRS though. Looks much easier. __________________ South West Railways

14th October 2007, 10:59	#6
Boxcars HST - extreme machine! Member Join Date: 24 May 2006 Location: Cambridge Posts: 220	I would love to drive the Cambridge to King's Cross route. It was once in the pipeline (see below) http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthre...ight=cambridge (I'm really looking forward to St Ives to St Erth though) __________________ "If you ever felt the locomotive shake the ground, I know you don't have to be told Why I'm goin' down to the railroad tracks And watch them lonesome boxcars roll" - from the song "Boxcars" - Joe Ely [MCA Records Inc. 1978] [Copyright 1977 Butch Hancock]

15th October 2007, 19:44	#8
Darandio Established Member Join Date: 24 Feb 2007 Location: Redcar Posts: 2,683	I would love to see Saltburn to Bishop Auckland so much so that i have been compiling a large database of photographs ready to do it myself. I am currently learning how to build a route on BVE hopefully can start soon. Hopefully I can make it so services can either terminate at Darlington in platforms 2 & 3 or go the full length to Bishop Auckland via platforms 4 & 4a and will be ideally suited to the upcoming Class 142. --- old post above --- --- new post below --- Further to my post above, can anyone tell me what sort of timescale i am looking at? I should be able to devote around 40-50 hours a week to it. Also, what are the best tools for the job? I am currently learning Routebuilder. Last edited by Darandio; 15th October 2007 at 19:44. Reason: Double post prevention system

16th October 2007, 01:43	#14
Techniquest Optare Basher Established Member Join Date: 19 Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Heath Posts: 7,794	Anyone who does would have fun doing New Street... Mossend - Aberdeen, that's a long route, full of huge route files it would be. Might take far too long to load or may exceed maximum length of file. Personal wished-for route would have to be Swansea - Paddington or Hereford - Paddington. Anyone who remembers me from UKTS will recall I 'did a GC' and promoted my upcoming routes like wildfire, these routes being two of the three I was going to build, all for MSTS. I've never dropped them completely, just taking my sweet time to get them built and for BVE instead. Indeed, S2P was started in Trainz at one point but I got stuck and can't remembered where I put the CDs for that game... Hoping to eventually tackle a prototypical route soon. Working on a ficitional BVE4 route, with a few miles of track, a couple of loops, a few stations and a few miles of high-speed running. No scenery though. Will be referring to Dennis' tutorials! __________________ Why not have a look at my trip reports? Latest one: Netherlands Bash/The Three Countries

13th October 2007, 21:57	#2
Turbostar SW Railfan Established Member Join Date: 15 Aug 2006 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 1,038	Well, if your asking on a personal matter, I would love to see a Exeter-Salisbury-London Waterloo done, but that's wishful thinking, seeing that it takes nearly 4hrs to run, so I would settle for the run to Salisbury, just so as to get to drive a 159 (aka 158 modified) on it. With reguards to Exeter-Paignton, that would be a good one, as we got a 153, a 158/159, HST. Exeter-Plymouth would be good as well. Will need to think up a few others. Mart

13th October 2007, 22:25	#3
Dennis Click to edit Established Member Join Date: 8 Aug 2005 Location: Trowbridge Posts: 2,601	re Exeter-Paignton, discussed in a previous thread; screenies here of Dawlish.

13th October 2007, 22:28	#4
Turbostar SW Railfan Established Member Join Date: 15 Aug 2006 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 1,038	That's St. Ives-St. Erth & Penzance! Ot's got nothing to do with Dawlish. Mart

15th October 2007, 20:24	#9
Dennis Click to edit Established Member Join Date: 8 Aug 2005 Location: Trowbridge Posts: 2,601	The timescales needed to build a route will depend not just on it's length but also on the amount of detail added and whether you choose to build all the objects yourself; bit like a model railway, never really finished and always possibilities for enhancement! It is possible to build basic routes using ready made objects at ~1km per hour although for more detailed routes with custom built objects I'm lucky to get an average of 25m per hour (although I wouldn't describe myself as being a fast worker).

15th October 2007, 20:43	#10
Darandio Established Member Join Date: 24 Feb 2007 Location: Redcar Posts: 2,683	Cheers Dennis. Ideally i would like to custom build as much as possible but also gain permission to borrow where needed i.e catenary for Darlington. I understand it will take time but with plenty of spare time i am hoping to get a move on.

15th October 2007, 21:17	#11
Jord Is Thee No.1 Hornage Fan Established Member Join Date: 20 Jun 2007 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 1,180	Nobody fancy making number 1 in my original post?

15th October 2007, 21:38	#12
Darandio Established Member Join Date: 24 Feb 2007 Location: Redcar Posts: 2,683	Jord, its opened up that can of worms again mate. I imagine the general reply will be to do it yourself. Although it sounds fantastic, it is a big job. Imagine the credit if you pulled it off though.

15th October 2007, 21:52	#13
Jord Is Thee No.1 Hornage Fan Established Member Join Date: 20 Jun 2007 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 1,180	Would not have any clue of where to start or what to do lol, that's why i asked so someone that does this thing could do it

17th October 2007, 19:03	#15
thomasgholmes On Moderation Join Date: 29 Sep 2007 Location: East london Posts: 169	I would like to see the central line on lul And london liverpool street to shenfield and southend e.t.c