Bad day for freight - first 66 stored, DRS 87s gone

AlexS · 16th June 2005, 20:12

66049 stored serviceable at Toton, and DRS have said they don't want their 87s anymore thanks to NR increasing power prices, and long turnarounds requiring diesels at terminals.

Guinness · 16th June 2005, 20:19

Was it the SRA or the NR to use more Electric trains under wires or was I day dreaming about it?

First 66 stored? Well thats thanks to EWS and there "Let's lose Contracts" policy.

Coxster · 16th June 2005, 20:21

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/vi...aspx?id=253638

May interest some if you...

Simming · 16th June 2005, 20:24

errr, not the first 66 to be stored, dont forget 521 is stored

Guinness · 16th June 2005, 20:24

Thanks for the link Damon.

AlexS · 16th June 2005, 20:26

Only because it was as good as destroyed. 049 is the first operational 66 to be stored.

Andrew · 16th June 2005, 20:26

Anyone else think it is a bit silly (in some ways) that the government sets the amount of rolling stock TOCs need, but then does nothing for freight. Ie, why have Freightliner buying more 66s (and GBRf and DRS) when EWS has some that aren't being used.
I'm probably missing something here - I know freight is organised very differnetly but still.

Jamie · 16th June 2005, 20:39

Freight Usage is on the way up, but EWS do have far too many Loco's for their own good, 250 Class 66's, 58 Class 60's, Class 37's, Class 67's, and the Electrics.

They cant find anything to do with them all, if you ask me it was only a matter of time before some 66's were stored.

Bad news about DRS returning the 87's cause they cant afford them though.

Simming · 16th June 2005, 20:40

the Problem with EWS is that they over-ordered the class 66, they weren't planning on withdrawing the 58s, 56s, and 60s so early.

Im sure it will come back into service soon, it might be stored for a maintance, or something along those lines

AlexS · 16th June 2005, 20:44

Combination of a lack of trains available for it, and some maintenance being required.

TheSlash · 16th June 2005, 22:47

At a guess i'd say 66521 was involved in Great Heck? What happened to the loco that rear ended at train at Bristol parkway just after Hatfield { i think it was Hatfield}, an EWS 66?

Simming · 16th June 2005, 22:50

yea, and it was a 67002 that was in that accident, and thats out and about again. Apprently 66047 is also stored, has always been in a bad way though.

AlexS · 17th June 2005, 11:28

Yeah, but did 67002 hit a GNER express train head on? 66521 is little more than a heap of twisted metal.

jdjonnay · 17th June 2005, 18:12

Ere, it isn't the first "operational" shed to be stored.

If you paid more attention (

), you'd know that 049 has already been stored for 6 months previously because of wheelset problems. It's EWS's worst shed. It's on the system showing as a pretty small problem, but I recon that there's a more severe problem behind it.

It was stored WNTS along with 5 60s on the 12th/13th of this month.

Good ridance to bad rubbish

Jon

AlexS · 18th June 2005, 08:40

Hey, if I stole everything I found on WNXX (one of the best sites around for older loco's, imho) I'd probably get into trouble

16th June 2005, 20:12	#1
AlexS Established Member Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Location: Just outside the Black Country Posts: 2,708	Bad day for freight - first 66 stored, DRS 87s gone 66049 stored serviceable at Toton, and DRS have said they don't want their 87s anymore thanks to NR increasing power prices, and long turnarounds requiring diesels at terminals.

16th June 2005, 20:24	#4
Simming Established Member Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,186	errr, not the first 66 to be stored, dont forget 521 is stored __________________ <- If Carlsberg did train collisions, that would be it, the best in the world Keep Uranium On Ur Rails!

16th June 2005, 20:40	#9
Simming Established Member Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,186	the Problem with EWS is that they over-ordered the class 66, they weren't planning on withdrawing the 58s, 56s, and 60s so early. Im sure it will come back into service soon, it might be stored for a maintance, or something along those lines __________________ <- If Carlsberg did train collisions, that would be it, the best in the world Keep Uranium On Ur Rails!

16th June 2005, 20:44	#10
AlexS Established Member Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Location: Just outside the Black Country Posts: 2,708	Combination of a lack of trains available for it, and some maintenance being required. __________________ Wibble and piffle.

16th June 2005, 22:50	#12
Simming Established Member Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,186	yea, and it was a 67002 that was in that accident, and thats out and about again. Apprently 66047 is also stored, has always been in a bad way though. __________________ <- If Carlsberg did train collisions, that would be it, the best in the world Keep Uranium On Ur Rails!

16th June 2005, 20:19	#2
Guinness Established Member Join Date: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 3,733	Was it the SRA or the NR to use more Electric trains under wires or was I day dreaming about it? First 66 stored? Well thats thanks to EWS and there "Let's lose Contracts" policy.

16th June 2005, 20:21	#3
Coxster Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: 9 Jun 2005 Posts: 9,242	http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/vi...aspx?id=253638 May interest some if you...

16th June 2005, 20:26	#6
AlexS Established Member Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Location: Just outside the Black Country Posts: 2,708	Only because it was as good as destroyed. 049 is the first operational 66 to be stored.

16th June 2005, 20:26	#7
Andrew Member Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Posts: 175	Anyone else think it is a bit silly (in some ways) that the government sets the amount of rolling stock TOCs need, but then does nothing for freight. Ie, why have Freightliner buying more 66s (and GBRf and DRS) when EWS has some that aren't being used. I'm probably missing something here - I know freight is organised very differnetly but still.

16th June 2005, 20:39	#8
Jamie Member Join Date: 8 Jun 2005 Posts: 962	Freight Usage is on the way up, but EWS do have far too many Loco's for their own good, 250 Class 66's, 58 Class 60's, Class 37's, Class 67's, and the Electrics. They cant find anything to do with them all, if you ask me it was only a matter of time before some 66's were stored. Bad news about DRS returning the 87's cause they cant afford them though.

16th June 2005, 22:47	#11
TheSlash Banned Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Location: Marwell Zoo Posts: 2,342	At a guess i'd say 66521 was involved in Great Heck? What happened to the loco that rear ended at train at Bristol parkway just after Hatfield { i think it was Hatfield}, an EWS 66?

17th June 2005, 11:28	#13
AlexS Established Member Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Location: Just outside the Black Country Posts: 2,708	Yeah, but did 67002 hit a GNER express train head on? 66521 is little more than a heap of twisted metal. __________________ Wibble and piffle.

17th June 2005, 18:12	#14
jdjonnay Member Join Date: 8 Jun 2005 Posts: 187	Ere, it isn't the first "operational" shed to be stored. If you paid more attention ( ), you'd know that 049 has already been stored for 6 months previously because of wheelset problems. It's EWS's worst shed. It's on the system showing as a pretty small problem, but I recon that there's a more severe problem behind it. It was stored WNTS along with 5 60s on the 12th/13th of this month. Good ridance to bad rubbish Jon __________________ My unloved and forgotten about rail shots live at www.railpics.tk www.jonnay.com - Non rail stuff

18th June 2005, 08:40	#15
AlexS Established Member Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Location: Just outside the Black Country Posts: 2,708	Hey, if I stole everything I found on WNXX (one of the best sites around for older loco's, imho) I'd probably get into trouble __________________ Wibble and piffle.