[Juniper Driver]

Originally Posted by class 313

I don't think 450s have any racks as such. But may have more 'space' to put bikes.

You know what I just can't remember.

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the 450's don't have racks to store bikes in like the 444's instea they have an area next to the standard toilet that has fold down seats and a velcrow strap to be able to secure 2 bikes only but as said before people down always go to these areas on the train they put there bikes just in the vestibule which they shouldn't do really but its down to the guards disgression as to if they can stay there or not, i generally tell people to move to the correct place on the train unless its only one stop they are travelling but thats just what i do on the trains other guards just tend to ignor it unless some one says somethign to them.

Alan

[deanparkr]

Well ive done my week of travelling with the bike!

Its very easy with the 444's as there was always less than 3 cycles on board.

Did have some problems with the 450 though where we had 4 cycles on board so I went in the corner oposite to the door. I was speaking to some people there who say that cycle space is a problem with the blue trains (450) but most of the time the guards dont seem to mind and that they have seen around 10 bikes in the 450 at some times where the kids are coming out of school.

I think I will continue to carry my bike, just hoping I see less of the 450's and more of the 444's!

Quick Q What is the gaurd says the bikes arnt allowed to stay? Would you have to get off at the next station?

[Juniper Driver]

What is the gaurd says the bikes arnt allowed to stay? Would you have to get off at the next station?

Would have thought so.

Been paying more attention to the 444's.

The two Motor Coaches DMC1+DMC2 No bike spaces.

DMC2 Country End generally.
TOSLS (3 Bike Spaces) Standard Toilet
TOSL (3 Bike Spaces) Standard Toilet
TOSLW (Wheelchair Access) Universal Toilet + Standard Toilet
DMC1 (First Class) London End generally

DMC 1 also classed as 100 Coach
TOSLW=========== 300 Coach
TOSL ============ 400 Coach
TOSLS============ 500 Coach
DMC 2 ============ 200 Coach

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Originally Posted by deanparkr

Quick Q What is the gaurd says the bikes arnt allowed to stay? Would you have to get off at the next station?

if the guard of the train said that you couldn't get on the train with the bike then you wouldn't be able to board at that station if the train was between stations then you would have to leave the train at the next station most of the time the guard will allow you to say if your not travelling too far thats what i do anyway, if you would only be travelling say 2 or 3 stations then i would let you travel but it depends on which guard you get as some can be quite stricked. i have only had to ask someone to leave my train once.

Alan