Stagecoach East Scotland fleet changes - Page 13

robertclark125 · 17th March 2012, 20:26

Unusual working tonight, 20334 on a 32 to Glenrothes, in place of the usual MAN 18.220 or Optare Solo. And it was on time, so hadn't covered a breakdown at Kirkcaldy?

Jamester · 20th March 2012, 01:13

I'm not sure about weight restrictions on bridges etc. but I have heard a rumour (and I stress it is only a rumour) that after the London Olympics, Fife will receive new coaches (B9s) and these will be used on X58/X60 and possibly X54. These new vehicles will have been used for the Olympics contract initially. The current B7R coaches will be used on X24/X27/X26.

The cloth seated B7s will be moved on elsewhere. In my view it is more likely any new coaches will be used for Edinburgh services and Glasgow will get the "hand me-downs"!

Blindtraveler · 20th March 2012, 14:38

that would certainly make sense and the B9s I would think, might, be better?

cainebj · 20th March 2012, 14:50

Don't know about B9R's, but there's some B13R Elite's on order for September delivery.

Jamester · 21st March 2012, 00:23

B13s would not be suitable on X58/X60 routes. I don't know much about the B9s but if they do come to Fife let's hope they are designed for service work. The B7s certainly are not.

Blindtraveler · 21st March 2012, 05:08

agreed. Would hope they dont make that mistake again.

cainebj · 21st March 2012, 20:00

There's 9 of the B13R Elite's on order for Aberhill, all to "executive" spec. Local management have asked for them, so must have found them suitable for something if not X58/X60. The only other vehicles on order for East Scotland are the E350H's for Perth, and 11 single deckers for St Andrews.

robertclark125 · 21st March 2012, 20:21

Those 11 single deckers are for the 99 group, and possibly for either the 23 or 96. It's worth noting the PVR for the 23 is 2 buses, the 96 is 2 buses at st Andrews, the 99 group has a PVR of 7.

As for the coaches, maybe they're headed for the X58/60. We'll have to wait and see what surprise local management has up its sleeve.

This will also lead to a cascade of some coaches to Rennies once again.

tbtc · 21st March 2012, 20:31

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Originally Posted by robertclark125

It's worth noting the PVR for the 23 is 2 buses

Are they both from St A though? I thought Glenrothes ran the duties that First/ Midland Bluebird used to run from Stirling?

It may well have changed of course

mbonwick · 21st March 2012, 20:55

Both from St. A according to the fleetcard.

The 11 single decks will replace 11 MANs and 1 B10M most likely, giving 1 spare on a PVR of 10.

robertclark125 · 21st March 2012, 20:58

First withdrew their journeys in 2005, and so stagecoach Fife took over all journeys. At the same time, route 14 ended, and so Stagecoach Fife extended their 78 to Stirling.

tbtc · 22nd March 2012, 11:22

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Originally Posted by mbonwick

Both from St. A according to the fleetcard

Cheers

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Originally Posted by robertclark125

First withdrew their journeys in 2005, and so stagecoach Fife took over all journeys. At the same time, route 14 ended, and so Stagecoach Fife extended their 78 to Stirling.

Yes, but IIRC initially the second duty on the route (e.g. the one that First previously ran) was operated by Glenrothes when Stagecoach took over (partly because the timings suited having a bus start/end in the Kinross area)

Jamester · 26th March 2012, 20:56

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Originally Posted by cainebj

There's 9 of the B13R Elite's on order for Aberhill, all to "executive" spec. Local management have asked for them, so must have found them suitable for something if not X58/X60. The only other vehicles on order for East Scotland are the E350H's for Perth, and 11 single deckers for St Andrews.

I've been hearing various "rumours" over the last few days. My understanding is B13s are not currently suitable for Aberhill depot but Stagecoach want to use them on the X24/X27 route. This could result in Aberhill losing these routes and the rumour is Aberhill will do most of the X54 instead. There may be some or no truth in this!

Blindtraveler · 26th March 2012, 23:55

9 wouldnt be enough for the Edinburgh runs anyway would it?

Jamester · 27th March 2012, 23:08

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Originally Posted by Blindtraveler

9 wouldnt be enough for the Edinburgh runs anyway would it?

It would be enough for X58/X60 as 8 vehicles are required for this.

20th March 2012, 14:50	#184
cainebj Established Member Join Date: 1 Nov 2008 Location: West Cumbria most of the time, also Carlisle Posts: 2,530	Don't know about B9R's, but there's some B13R Elite's on order for September delivery. __________________ my Flickr photostream

21st March 2012, 20:00	#187
cainebj Established Member Join Date: 1 Nov 2008 Location: West Cumbria most of the time, also Carlisle Posts: 2,530	There's 9 of the B13R Elite's on order for Aberhill, all to "executive" spec. Local management have asked for them, so must have found them suitable for something if not X58/X60. The only other vehicles on order for East Scotland are the E350H's for Perth, and 11 single deckers for St Andrews. __________________ my Flickr photostream

21st March 2012, 20:55	#190
mbonwick Established Member Join Date: 26 Oct 2006 Location: Milnthorpe (Nr. Kendal) Posts: 5,279	Both from St. A according to the fleetcard. The 11 single decks will replace 11 MANs and 1 B10M most likely, giving 1 spare on a PVR of 10. __________________

17th March 2012, 20:26	#181
robertclark125 Member Join Date: 12 Mar 2008 Location: Cardenden, Fife Posts: 879	Unusual working tonight, 20334 on a 32 to Glenrothes, in place of the usual MAN 18.220 or Optare Solo. And it was on time, so hadn't covered a breakdown at Kirkcaldy?

20th March 2012, 01:13	#182
Jamester Member Join Date: 8 Jul 2010 Posts: 70	I'm not sure about weight restrictions on bridges etc. but I have heard a rumour (and I stress it is only a rumour) that after the London Olympics, Fife will receive new coaches (B9s) and these will be used on X58/X60 and possibly X54. These new vehicles will have been used for the Olympics contract initially. The current B7R coaches will be used on X24/X27/X26. The cloth seated B7s will be moved on elsewhere. In my view it is more likely any new coaches will be used for Edinburgh services and Glasgow will get the "hand me-downs"!

20th March 2012, 14:38	#183
Blindtraveler Scotlands No.1 Pacer Fan! Established Member Join Date: 28 Feb 2011 Location: Edinburgh Scotland United Kingdom Posts: 2,586	that would certainly make sense and the B9s I would think, might, be better?

21st March 2012, 00:23	#185
Jamester Member Join Date: 8 Jul 2010 Posts: 70	B13s would not be suitable on X58/X60 routes. I don't know much about the B9s but if they do come to Fife let's hope they are designed for service work. The B7s certainly are not.

21st March 2012, 05:08	#186
Blindtraveler Scotlands No.1 Pacer Fan! Established Member Join Date: 28 Feb 2011 Location: Edinburgh Scotland United Kingdom Posts: 2,586	agreed. Would hope they dont make that mistake again.

21st March 2012, 20:21	#188
robertclark125 Member Join Date: 12 Mar 2008 Location: Cardenden, Fife Posts: 879	Those 11 single deckers are for the 99 group, and possibly for either the 23 or 96. It's worth noting the PVR for the 23 is 2 buses, the 96 is 2 buses at st Andrews, the 99 group has a PVR of 7. As for the coaches, maybe they're headed for the X58/60. We'll have to wait and see what surprise local management has up its sleeve. This will also lead to a cascade of some coaches to Rennies once again.

21st March 2012, 20:58	#191
robertclark125 Member Join Date: 12 Mar 2008 Location: Cardenden, Fife Posts: 879	First withdrew their journeys in 2005, and so stagecoach Fife took over all journeys. At the same time, route 14 ended, and so Stagecoach Fife extended their 78 to Stirling.

26th March 2012, 23:55	#194
Blindtraveler Scotlands No.1 Pacer Fan! Established Member Join Date: 28 Feb 2011 Location: Edinburgh Scotland United Kingdom Posts: 2,586	9 wouldnt be enough for the Edinburgh runs anyway would it?