Derren Brown guesses the lottery numbers

**Mojo** · 9th September 2009, 22:16

This was on Channel 4 earlier but annoyingly I missed it. Did he get them right?

Bayum · 9th September 2009, 22:29

I think by the comments on Facebook... he did.

However, if you have Channel 4+1, you might still be able to catch it!

spoony · 9th September 2009, 22:51

Yes, however he did not predict the numbers. He merely told us them after the event so I am quite dubious

**Mojo** · 9th September 2009, 22:56

Yes I did catch it on c4+1! We will have to see what is said on Friday...

me123 · 9th September 2009, 23:19

He got them all right, I'm sad to say.

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Originally Posted by spoony

Yes, however he did not predict the numbers. He merely told us them after the event so I am quite dubious

He could not reveal the numbers before it was drawn, which is of course fair enough. The game has to be fair for everyone who plays it.

That said, I'm convinced that there was something at work here. If he could really predict the lottery, he'd but a ticket on and bag the jackpot rather than playing stupid games with television viewers.

**Mojo** · 9th September 2009, 23:34

And also, he wasn't revealing the lottery numbers. He was just giving his prediction of what they'd be. If I told you what numbers I'd put on my lottery ticket I wouldn't be revealing the numbers.

spoony · 9th September 2009, 23:39

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Originally Posted by me123

He got them all right, I'm sad to say.

He could not reveal the numbers before it was drawn, which is of course fair enough. The game has to be fair for everyone who plays it.

That said, I'm convinced that there was something at work here. If he could really predict the lottery, he'd but a ticket on and bag the jackpot rather than playing stupid games with television viewers.

Why not? It was a prediction. Hundreds of thousands people predict the numbers every week!

Mike Redding · 10th September 2009, 00:06

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHZ2mQczkcg

That's the video. It's been quite funny on Digital Spy tonight watching people try to come up with how he did it. I think it's quite impressive what he did, and i'm looking forward to the show on Friday where he reveals how he did it.
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Originally Posted by spoony

Why not? It was a prediction. Hundreds of thousands people predict the numbers every week!

I wouldn't be suprised if it was because of Exclusivity rights that the BBC have with Camelot, so if he got them all right then technically the results would have been revealed before the BBC, although of course we wouldn't know the official results until the Draw was done on BBC One. I'd guess that the BBC opposed the showing on another channel in some way, meaning the show had to be done in the way it was.

flymo · 10th September 2009, 00:20

If he can predict Saturdays numbers now then why not write them down, seal them in an envelope put somewhere safe and secure so that nobody can tamper with them (I'll look after them if he likes) and we'll see what happens. If he wins I'll send him the money, honest !

Lower Quadrant · 10th September 2009, 06:29

There were no winners on last nights Lottery.

Dezza will be miffed.I wonder if it is possible to "ask" the main computer for six numbers that have not been chosen by the punters,once the terminals have been closed?

http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/pl...ults/lotto.ftl
http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/pl...eBreakdown.ftl

hairyhandedfool · 10th September 2009, 10:18

So he is going to tell us how he predicted the results before the draw so we can all copy it and win a whooping jackpot of <£1 per ticket each next week.

Cheap ratings trick if you ask me.

Death · 10th September 2009, 11:30

I havn't seen the programme in question, but I wonder how it'd have been possible for him to guess the numbers accurateley given that the Lottery is truly random?

IMO; This would be better run over a number of draws to see if he can be consistently accurate, and having him guess the bonus ball as well would help to guage accuracy and run it as a proper, scientific experiment. 8)

In the meantime though, does anybody have his telephone number?

mrcheek · 10th September 2009, 11:45

The lottery draw is fixed. fact.

Most likely this is a publicity stunt between Brown and Camelot to boost flagging sales of lottery tickets.

EM2 · 10th September 2009, 12:48

Here's what he did (not how he did it!)

In a TV studio that was completely empty, apart from himself and two cameramen, he had a rack with six ping-pong balls and a TV.
He announced that the ping-pong balls were his prediction for last night's lottery numbers. At no point did he pr anyone else touch the balls, they were in sight at all times. He then switched on the TV, to show the Lottery draw. To satisfy myself, I flicked across to BBC1 to prove that what I was seeing on C4 was what was being shown on BBC1.
After the numbers were drawn, DB copied them onto a piece of card, then walked across to the rack of balls. Again, he did NOT touch the balls but turned the rack so that they were facing the viewer.

All six balls matched.

You can see it in split-screen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmxua_V1AcM

JustinStacey.x · 10th September 2009, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death

I havn't seen the programme in question, but I wonder how it'd have been possible for him to guess the numbers accurateley given that the Lottery is truly random?

IMO; This would be better run over a number of draws to see if he can be consistently accurate, and having him guess the bonus ball as well would help to guage accuracy and run it as a proper, scientific experiment. 8)

In the meantime though, does anybody have his telephone number?

If what Derren Brown did was not a fix (unlikely probably...) then this could prove my theory that absolutely everything in life (even what people 'perceive' to be random, but that is another discussion entirely) is in fact predetermined, and he was in fact looking into the future. Personally, I think if such foresight is even possible (as demonstrated perhaps?) this also proves that life's events are predetermined, else, how else could one look into the future?

I personally believe that there is no such thing as random, or choice in the true sense, in that anything we do, and consequences therein, is just one huge scripted outcome, to put it simply.

9th September 2009, 22:16	#1
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9th September 2009, 22:56	#4
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9th September 2009, 23:34	#6
Mojo Muffin head Administrator Join Date: 7 Aug 2005 Location: London W12 Posts: 11,515	And also, he wasn't revealing the lottery numbers. He was just giving his prediction of what they'd be. If I told you what numbers I'd put on my lottery ticket I wouldn't be revealing the numbers. __________________ "Could you provide a sauce please?"

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flymo For English press 2 Established Member Join Date: 22 May 2007 Location: Geordie in exile. Posts: 1,088	If he can predict Saturdays numbers now then why not write them down, seal them in an envelope put somewhere safe and secure so that nobody can tamper with them (I'll look after them if he likes) and we'll see what happens. If he wins I'll send him the money, honest ! __________________

10th September 2009, 06:29	#10
Lower Quadrant Member Join Date: 31 Aug 2009 Posts: 52	There were no winners on last nights Lottery. Dezza will be miffed.I wonder if it is possible to "ask" the main computer for six numbers that have not been chosen by the punters,once the terminals have been closed? http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/pl...ults/lotto.ftl http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/pl...eBreakdown.ftl Last edited by Lower Quadrant; 10th September 2009 at 06:41.

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Bayum On Moderation Join Date: 21 Mar 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 1,045	I think by the comments on Facebook... he did. However, if you have Channel 4+1, you might still be able to catch it!

9th September 2009, 22:51	#3
spoony Member Join Date: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Roker Park, Sunderland. Next to the Stadium of Light metro Posts: 479	Yes, however he did not predict the numbers. He merely told us them after the event so I am quite dubious

10th September 2009, 10:18	#11
hairyhandedfool TOC employee Established Member Join Date: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 5,188	So he is going to tell us how he predicted the results before the draw so we can all copy it and win a whooping jackpot of <£1 per ticket each next week. Cheap ratings trick if you ask me. __________________ These views are my own and not, in any way, those of my employer, though they may choose to agree with them if they wish.

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Death Railway Warrior #370... Established Member Join Date: 22 Oct 2006 Location: Sat at the control desk of 370666... Posts: 1,618	I havn't seen the programme in question, but I wonder how it'd have been possible for him to guess the numbers accurateley given that the Lottery is truly random? IMO; This would be better run over a number of draws to see if he can be consistently accurate, and having him guess the bonus ball as well would help to guage accuracy and run it as a proper, scientific experiment. 8) In the meantime though, does anybody have his telephone number? __________________ APT enthusiasts unite! \| Historical and resto froth \| Death's catacomb o' random crap \| Find me elsewhere Offline user: I have no home Internet connection - Only friends and public PCs - Therefore my posts and responses may be few and far between.

10th September 2009, 11:45	#13
mrcheek Wheres my free coffee? Member Join Date: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 895	The lottery draw is fixed. fact. Most likely this is a publicity stunt between Brown and Camelot to boost flagging sales of lottery tickets.

10th September 2009, 12:48	#14
EM2 Established Member Join Date: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Forest Gate, London Posts: 2,276	Here's what he did (not how he did it!) In a TV studio that was completely empty, apart from himself and two cameramen, he had a rack with six ping-pong balls and a TV. He announced that the ping-pong balls were his prediction for last night's lottery numbers. At no point did he pr anyone else touch the balls, they were in sight at all times. He then switched on the TV, to show the Lottery draw. To satisfy myself, I flicked across to BBC1 to prove that what I was seeing on C4 was what was being shown on BBC1. After the numbers were drawn, DB copied them onto a piece of card, then walked across to the rack of balls. Again, he did NOT touch the balls but turned the rack so that they were facing the viewer. All six balls matched. You can see it in split-screen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmxua_V1AcM __________________ *'Captain, this is madness!' 'This is not madness. This is Hassocks!'* 1343 miles in 23h 47m with no repeat mileage. Can you prove you've beaten it?