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Unread 7th October 2009, 09:29   #1
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Default What really happened to Steam?

The Railway Magazine, November Edition, has launched a feature that explains that a lot of the info in the ‘What Happened to Steam’ books was wrong.
A new website is being launched today too - http://www.whatreallyhappenedtosteam.co.uk
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Unread 7th October 2009, 12:49   #2
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Well as far as I can tell, it was superseded by deisel, and then electric.. not rocket science
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Unread 7th October 2009, 13:13   #3
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Well as far as I can tell, it was superseded by deisel, and then electric.. not rocket science
Considering steam lasted until 1968, it's not correct to assume diesel then electric, they were pretty much the same times. You missed the opportunity to use your unintentional pun about 'rocket science' and it's connection to a famous steam loco.
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Well as far as I can tell, it was superseded by deisel, and then electric..
Shouldn't there then be a " and then diesel" at the end, as no electric loco's have been built for more than 20 years- yet we have a plethora of 66's of various sources, then 67's and now 70's... fact not rocket science, and the last locomotive completed was ....... errr steam (Tornado) and the build of others started.
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can't you people tell that at this stage the majority of my posts are just a windup?
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Shouldn't there then be a " and then diesel" at the end, as no electric loco's have been built for more than 20 years
What about the hundreds of electric units that have been introduced?
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I live on the SE division so steam was replaced by DEMUs and EMUs it was not in a particular order that diesal replaced steam,and than diesal got replaced by electric.
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scrapped with indecent haste ......

some locos went to the scrap yards when they were 5 years old - even before they were due for their first overhaul.

then in 1973 came the oil crisis .......

Instead of messing with untried diesels they should have proceeded with more electrification.
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scrapped with indecent haste ......

some locos went to the scrap yards when they were 5 years old - even before they were due for their first overhaul.

then in 1973 came the oil crisis .......

Instead of messing with untried diesels they should have proceeded with more electrification.
Hear Hear pal! In West Germany Deutsche Bundesbahn concentrated on electrifying the main lines and a few secondary ones, and retaining some of their more modern steam locos, which avoided over-investment in diesels. In East Germany steam locos were in use until the mid 1980s.

For a nation which gave birth to the railways we royally screwed them up!
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can't you people tell that at this stage the majority of my posts are just a windup?
That would be like your Linux comments then ?
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Shouldn't there then be a " and then diesel" at the end, as no electric loco's have been built for more than 20 years- yet we have a plethora of 66's of various sources, then 67's and now 70's... fact not rocket science, and the last locomotive completed was ....... errr steam (Tornado) and the build of others started.
Quite apart from the 92s that were built in the 90s, the main reason no electric locos have been built since them is the decision to move from loco haulage to EMUs. Seems the last diesel locos built for passenger use were the 43s, based on the same principle as DMUs themselves.
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So what about the Strategic Steam Reserve ?

http://www.willys-mb.co.uk/strategic-reserve.htm
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The stories of the SSR are wishful thinking and proof that there's one born every minute....
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So what about the Strategic Steam Reserve ?

http://www.willys-mb.co.uk/strategic-reserve.htm
Do you honestly think a single word in that website is true?
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Good grief, of course not !

I posted it as a gentle wind-up to see what would happen

Snapper, of course is Snapper, and responded as I expected
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