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Old 14th July 2010, 22:38   #1
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Default Scottish Youth Railcard discount on 16-25 Railcard

I remember hearing recently that a Scottish Youth Railcard entitles the owner to 50% off a 16-25 railcard. Can anyone confirm this?
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Old 15th July 2010, 17:46   #2
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I remember hearing recently that a Scottish Youth Railcard entitles the owner to 50% off a 16-25 railcard. Can anyone confirm this?

Not true.
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Okey dokey. *Silently gutted*
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Maybe you were thinking of a 50% discount on season tickets?

Holders of a Scottish Youth Rail Card are entitled to:
- 34% off most rail fares
- 50% off all season tickets
- 34% off most advance purchases
- No minimum fare on ‘off peak’ fares
- No minimum fares in July and August
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Can this Youthcard to buy tickets to Lobdon? my sister might one.
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Probably, wish they would update the fares engine. I'm going to Carlisle soon and I'm going to have to book it in my nearest station (open until 10.30am weekdays) in order to get the discount.
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Probably, wish they would update the fares engine. I'm going to Carlisle soon and I'm going to have to book it in my nearest station (open until 10.30am weekdays) in order to get the discount.

The Scottish Youth Railcard can be used only for journeys wholly within Scotland. Last time I checked Carlisle was in England, so hence no discount would apply. I have just checked the relevant instructions in the fares manual and there are no easements or extensions mentioned either. Basically, it can be used only for journeys where the start and finish station are both in Scotland.
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Probably, wish they would update the fares engine. I'm going to Carlisle soon and I'm going to have to book it in my nearest station (open until 10.30am weekdays) in order to get the discount.

What stations that? Unless your going to book an advance ticket you can get your tickets on the train from the guard.
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The Scottish Youth Railcard can be used only for journeys wholly within Scotland. Last time I checked Carlisle was in England, so hence no discount would apply. I have just checked the relevant instructions in the fares manual and there are no easements or extensions mentioned either. Basically, it can be used only for journeys where the start and finish station are both in Scotland.
I can't find anything on the website. But often, "Scottish" rover tickets are valid to go to Carlisle and Berwick-upon-Tweed (but no further) even though they are both in England. So it may be worthwhile checking about validity with the Scottish Youth Railcard.
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I can't find anything on the website. But often, "Scottish" rover tickets are valid to go to Carlisle and Berwick-upon-Tweed (but no further) even though they are both in England. So it may be worthwhile checking about validity with the Scottish Youth Railcard.
True Club 55 tickets are valid to Carlisle and Berwick on tweed.
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Kvwr5 is indeed correct in what he posted. There are no fares matching criteria, if you attempt to apply the discount. As far as I was aware, they were not valid for stations outwith Scotland at all.
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Kvwr5 is indeed correct in what he posted. There are no fares matching criteria, if you attempt to apply the discount. As far as I was aware, they were not valid for stations outwith Scotland at all.
I wasnt sure as i have never been asked for a ticket to CAR with a SYC but i wasnt sure if you could use it CAR as the Club55 are valid. Why not split the journey @Lockerbie?
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With NFM 06 CD, Edinburgh - Lockerbie gives a full range of fares using discount code SRY SCOTTISH YOUTH RCD, but Edinburgh - Carlisle returns
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With NFM 06 CD, Edinburgh - Lockerbie gives a full range of fares using discount code SRY SCOTTISH YOUTH RCD, but Edinburgh - Carlisle returns
Buy the SRY rtn to Lockerbie then CDR from Lockerbie to CAR.
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I wasnt sure as i have never been asked for a ticket to CAR with a SYC but i wasnt sure if you could use it CAR as the Club55 are valid. Why not split the journey @Lockerbie?


Sure, though you could go as far as Gretna Green on the sou'west also. To be fair, there used to be an easement of sorts for holders of young persons railcards in the dumfries/lockerbie area where the minimum fare did not apply before 10, I think this is still the case though i'd need to check again for sure. Dumfries/Annan-Carlisle off peak day returns are also heavily subsidised, the dumfries one is less expensive than a standard day single.
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