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Old 23rd September 2010, 23:09   #1
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What benefits are there to upgrade to First Class on a TP Express service?

The key thing for me is travelling with a power socket available, and Wi-fi is a bonus.

Do the 185s and 170s offer this? I'm not particularly bothered about the food/drink. There's no mention of Power Socket or Wi-fi on the TP website.

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Old 23rd September 2010, 23:12   #2
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Think there's power sockets in both classes on 185, dunno about 170. There's no wi-fi on any FTPE train. 170s are used on South TP (Manc-Sheffield-Cleethorpes and sometimes Manc-Leeds-Hull only)
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Cheers Matt. It's for a journey I need to make to Doncaster soon.
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Old 23rd September 2010, 23:14   #4
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What benefits are there to upgrade to First Class on a TP Express service?

The key thing for me is travelling with a power socket available, and Wi-fi is a bonus.

Do the 185s and 170s offer this? I'm not particularly bothered about the food/drink. There's no mention of Power Socket or Wi-fi on the TP website.
You will get a bigger slightly more comfortable seat in first class, no wi-fi on either 185 or 170, there are power sockets at every seat. Food will be free drink and a snack (assuming the trolley is on board and that will probably be between Leeds and Manchester only perhaps a bit further on some trains and I'm not sure on Manchester to Scotland services).

All in all TPE first class really is only worth it to avoid the overcrowding especially on 170 services.
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It'll most likely be a 170 then, the FTPE website is poor for onboard features, and I don't use the South TP often . No wi-fi deffo though
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Having travelled on one tonight I can confirm there are indeed sockets in standard class and first.
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Having travelled on a TPE 170 tonight I can confirm there are indeed sockets in standard class and first.
Are that at every seat in standard though? On 185s they only have sockets at table seats, not sure about 170s.
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The sockets are on the wall as opposed to being attached to the table so they may well be at every seat.
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Someone like Max will know about TPE 170s. I have never travelled on one, that I can recall, but fairly frequently use 185s and indeed on 185s they are only at table seats (like Pendolinos in that respect) however 185s are a good design of train (internally) and there are plenty of table seats. If I do a journey like York-Manchester I may not get a table at York but I can swap seats at Leeds, and vice versa at Stalybridge, it's not a problem.
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It'll most likely be a 170 then, the FTPE website is poor for onboard features, and I don't use the South TP often . No wi-fi deffo though
Going off what i've seen on my trips between Manchester & Cleethorpes a month or two ago, I think there are two diagrams on this route for 170's, with the rest still being 185's.

Unless it's changed recently, the 170's seem to leave Man Picc for Cleethorpes during the afternoon, possibly 13:20 and 15:20, although i'm not sure.

As for TPE 170 FC- I can't comment, as i've only been on one once before, between Hull and Leeds, where I bailed for a 185 to take me to Man Picc. I was glad i had a First anytime single, as I remember being unimpressed by the 170 compared to 185s.
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Going off what i've seen on my trips between Manchester & Cleethorpes a month or two ago, I think there are two diagrams on this route for 170's, with the rest still being 185's.

Unless it's changed recently, the 170's seem to leave Man Picc for Cleethorpes during the afternoon, possibly 13:20 and 15:20, although i'm not sure.

As for TPE 170 FC- I can't comment, as i've only been on one once before, between Hull and Leeds, where I bailed for a 185 to take me to Man Picc. I was glad i had a First anytime single, as I remember being unimpressed by the 170 compared to 185s.
Compared to the 185s, the 170s are <insert expletive of choice>!

Anyway, the diagrams for the 170s on the South TPE route are:

Diagram 1.

0515 MIA - CLE
0928 CLE - MIA
1255 MIA - CLE
1628 CLE - MIA (very often full and standing between Grimsby - Manchester)

Diagram 2.

0754 MIA - CLE
1128 CLE - MIA

Diagram 3.

1055 MIA - CLE
1428 CLE - MIA
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I travelled 1st class on a class 185 yesterday. I appreciated it being less busy there but didn't find the seat much more comfortable. Mind you, these Desiros have really good standard class seating anyway!
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Manchester - Dun Edin/Glas Chu have trolley service for the full duration
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the caremelised biscuits are quite nice as well. And once on a TPE from Windermere the trolley lady have us free ice cream, because it would only have to go in the bin if not. best 185 journey ever.
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