Station Markers?

Rich · 29th November 2005, 14:56

Hi guys,
I just wondered if there was a lineside sign to indicate to a driver that they were, say, 1 mile/km from a station?? If there is, can someone please let me know what one looks like, as I think I could use some in my BVE route!

Thanks,

29th November 2005, 14:58

Not normally, although on the Portsmouth direct there are some, but give 1/2 mile warning and this is only at Liss IIRC.

Rich · 29th November 2005, 15:11

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Originally Posted by tubechallenger

Not normally, although on the Portsmouth direct there are some, but give 1/2 mile warning and this is only at Liss IIRC.

OK, it was just that I have I high speed route, so the driver willneed to know when to start to slow down, otherwise he will go straight past the station!

devon_metro · 29th November 2005, 15:23

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Originally Posted by RichardH

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Originally Posted by tubechallenger

Not normally, although on the Portsmouth direct there are some, but give 1/2 mile warning and this is only at Liss IIRC.

OK, it was just that I have I high speed route, so the driver willneed to know when to start to slow down, otherwise he will go straight past the station!

That's where it's good to learn the route

I had this problem on maybank althougth once driven enough times its like clockwork; i knoe every corner on X-city

Rich · 29th November 2005, 15:38

I shall advise my downloaders to practise running the route through a few time, so you learn where stations are, otherwise I'll get loads of complaints from people saying, "I didn't see the station, I think the route is rubbish because I can't stop!"

Holland on Rail · 29th November 2005, 15:39

Thats not something to worry about, a good driver does know where is is during his shift. But you can always sesign a new signal.
In Holland we have the "S" sign. Not always to announce a station. It can be seen infront of a junction (I know only 1 level junction outsita a station area in Holland, all junctions on mainlines have Fly-overs here).

Coxster · 29th November 2005, 15:49

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Originally Posted by tubechallenger

Not normally, although on the Portsmouth direct there are some, but give 1/2 mile warning and this is only at Liss IIRC.

Liphook too. It's a fast route with a steep downward gradient - as TheSlash knows very well

As for your route Richard, you could do what Sasha did in Bay Park and have a 'training' scenario where the DI says "One mile to the next station driver".

Dennis · 29th November 2005, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Coxster

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Originally Posted by tubechallenger

Not normally, although on the Portsmouth direct there are some, but give 1/2 mile warning and this is only at Liss IIRC.

Liphook too. It's a fast route with a steep downward gradient - as TheSlash knows very well

As for your route Richard, you could do what Sasha did in Bay Park and have a 'training' scenario where the DI says "One mile to the next station driver".

or create a passenger announcement to play when a station is being approached.

An alternative is to put a landmark near the line which is easily recognised (I have used piles of rubbish in the past) and which can be used as a braking point. After all, I'm sure real drivers pick out landmarks to use as guides.

AlexS · 29th November 2005, 19:36

Well, Euston has a great big red board 1 mile away with a huge arrow saying 1 mile to Euston Station

Coxster · 29th November 2005, 20:14

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Originally Posted by AlexS

Well, Euston has a great big red board 1 mile away with a huge arrow saying 1 mile to Euston Station

Just incase you don't spot the station when travelling at 40mph

Jim · 30th November 2005, 05:25

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Originally Posted by Coxster

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Originally Posted by AlexS

Well, Euston has a great big red board 1 mile away with a huge arrow saying 1 mile to Euston Station

Just incase you don't spot the station when travelling at 40mph

I remember when pendo brakes were rubbish & they kept running in to the buffers

91119 · 30th November 2005, 09:44

There are no official signs, but drivers use landmarks as a reminder of where they are. For example on the approach to York from the south there's Colton Junction followed by the Tesco on the right, then Holgate then you're at York.

Techniquest · 30th November 2005, 13:10

Stafford is the best for knowing where you are on the Caledonian Insomniac. On the approach to Stafford, Tesco is on the right hand side, with huge lettering spelling out 'Welcome to Stafford' on it. As well as indicating it's a 24-hour store too of course.

I agree with whoever said to learn the route is the best way to find the braking points and so forth. I know Maybank to Riverside like the back of my hand on the HST service. Continuing onto Hammerwich I'm not so hot on, but I know the majority of it. The final few miles of it always knock me off timing though, and half the time I hit Hammerwich 2 down after the most intense accleration/braking combo possible. Managed 75 seconds down last time, was well chuffed.

Hammerwich to Wood Green, that I'm always early for on arrival at Wood Green! But then I've driven it hundreds of times.

Bring on your route Richard, I'll be looking forward to another high-speed route!

Rich · 30th November 2005, 15:22

I think I'll use the a landmark - ie: I'll find an object to place 1 km from a station! Any ideas?

Guinness · 30th November 2005, 15:23

A knowledgeable driver doesn't need markers.

29th November 2005, 14:56	#1
Rich Established Member Join Date: 10 Jun 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,846	Station Markers? Hi guys, I just wondered if there was a lineside sign to indicate to a driver that they were, say, 1 mile/km from a station?? If there is, can someone please let me know what one looks like, as I think I could use some in my BVE route! Thanks, __________________ The Red Right Hand Site Engineer - Manchester Metrolink Extension (Airport Line)

29th November 2005, 15:38	#5
Rich Established Member Join Date: 10 Jun 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,846	I shall advise my downloaders to practise running the route through a few time, so you learn where stations are, otherwise I'll get loads of complaints from people saying, "I didn't see the station, I think the route is rubbish because I can't stop!" __________________ The Red Right Hand Site Engineer - Manchester Metrolink Extension (Airport Line)

29th November 2005, 15:39	#6
Holland on Rail Member Join Date: 25 Aug 2005 Location: Where 58's still operate in commercial service....... Posts: 274	Thats not something to worry about, a good driver does know where is is during his shift. But you can always sesign a new signal. In Holland we have the "S" sign. Not always to announce a station. It can be seen infront of a junction (I know only 1 level junction outsita a station area in Holland, all junctions on mainlines have Fly-overs here). __________________ www.maarten-otto.net Working at the Amsterdam signalling centre

29th November 2005, 19:36	#9
AlexS Established Member Join Date: 7 Jun 2005 Location: Just outside the Black Country Posts: 2,718	Well, Euston has a great big red board 1 mile away with a huge arrow saying 1 mile to Euston Station __________________ Wibble and piffle.

30th November 2005, 13:10	#13
Techniquest Optare Basher Established Member Join Date: 19 Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Heath Posts: 7,797	Stafford is the best for knowing where you are on the Caledonian Insomniac. On the approach to Stafford, Tesco is on the right hand side, with huge lettering spelling out 'Welcome to Stafford' on it. As well as indicating it's a 24-hour store too of course. I agree with whoever said to learn the route is the best way to find the braking points and so forth. I know Maybank to Riverside like the back of my hand on the HST service. Continuing onto Hammerwich I'm not so hot on, but I know the majority of it. The final few miles of it always knock me off timing though, and half the time I hit Hammerwich 2 down after the most intense accleration/braking combo possible. Managed 75 seconds down last time, was well chuffed. Hammerwich to Wood Green, that I'm always early for on arrival at Wood Green! But then I've driven it hundreds of times. Bring on your route Richard, I'll be looking forward to another high-speed route! __________________ Why not have a look at my trip reports? Latest one: Netherlands Bash/The Three Countries

29th November 2005, 14:58	#2
Tom Guest Posts: n/a	Not normally, although on the Portsmouth direct there are some, but give 1/2 mile warning and this is only at Liss IIRC.

30th November 2005, 09:44	#12
91119 Banned Join Date: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 48	There are no official signs, but drivers use landmarks as a reminder of where they are. For example on the approach to York from the south there's Colton Junction followed by the Tesco on the right, then Holgate then you're at York.

30th November 2005, 15:22	#14
Rich Established Member Join Date: 10 Jun 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,846	I think I'll use the a landmark - ie: I'll find an object to place 1 km from a station! Any ideas? __________________ The Red Right Hand Site Engineer - Manchester Metrolink Extension (Airport Line)

30th November 2005, 15:23	#15
Guinness Established Member Join Date: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 3,733	A knowledgeable driver doesn't need markers.