[YorkshireBear]

PTS is personal track safety dont know about other

[networkrail1]

Originally Posted by kyrano

http://dave421.fotopic.net/p67598968.html
as we where just leaving Newark northgate on a foot crossing the driver of 67023 stopped as this group of trainspotters where on wrongside of the fence ,you will notice a women with CHILDREN on the rails ok its the drags due to idiots like this network rail will ban even steam charters i can see the day photters and filmers will get us all banned .


http://dave421.fotopic.net/p67598968.html

Hi mate.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

When steam specials are due through newark we normally have one NWR guy there (sometimes me).

We didn't think that the diverts would bring anyone out but as i can see they did.

Thanks again.

All the best

Simon

[GB]

Why can't the "ordinary" police attend on the railway?

They can and they do. Due to the low numbers of BTP officers and the vast geography they cover it is usually the civies that arrive on scene first anyway.
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Originally Posted by Chester025

No, I just don't see why every time someone 'trespasses' there needs to be a post on here with a link to the picture saying 'look at these idiots, I would never do something like that as it would get stuff banned from the mainline blah blah'

Have you ever actually thought that if you don't post it to a public forum, it would prevent Network Rail officials seeing it? Either report it in the proper means or just leave it!

There are scores of tresspass incidents across the network everyday...I don't see that many topics on here do you?

Do you not think the driver in this instance would have reported it?

[Chester025]

Originally Posted by GB

There are scores of tresspass incidents across the network everyday...I don't see that many topics on here do you?

Do you not think the driver in this instance would have reported it?

So why the need for another pointless thread on here and on other forums?

[ainsworth74]

We could also ask why are you so keen to have threads like this suppressed? I don't see any harm in having the odd thread like this crop up so what's the big deal?

[scotsman]

Chester025 admits to being a trespasser in another thread, where he attempted to push the blame on to my colleagues for not noticing his stupidity.

[ralphchadkirk]

Originally Posted by Chester025

No, I just don't see why every time someone 'trespasses' there needs to be a post on here with a link to the picture saying 'look at these idiots, I would never do something like that as it would get stuff banned from the mainline blah blah'

Have you ever actually thought that if you don't post it to a public forum, it would prevent Network Rail officials seeing it? Either report it in the proper means or just leave it!

If the train stopped because of them, then NR will sure as hell know about it.

[GB]

Originally Posted by Chester025

So why the need for another pointless thread on here and on other forums?

If its so pointless then why are you posting in it?

[Kernowfem]

It's cringe worthy to see the young lad with his back to the rail and almost standing on it! I appreciate that enthusiasts will always want a prime view of trains, but i know of at least FOUR level crossings in this particular area where the surrounding view is clear and you can get close without trespassing or getting nobbled!

Bottom line its down to every individual to use common sense. While id like to see the BTP deal with those who leave their common sense at home, i doubt they have the resources in which to tackle enthusiasts who put their own and others lives in danger.

Sadly it will always be those of us who actually abide by law and never trespass that will suffer for the law breakers.

I'd also like to add that many of those enthusiasts who do trespass are likely to be a member of some rail forum and just maybe they will see pics of themselves acting irresponsibly and read peoples responces and feel shamed into curbing their behaviour, i dont think this type of thread is pointless at all

[MattE2010]

It astonishes me how some parents let their children do this. I take it this was on the ECML? If so, there are 4+ 125mph trains in each direction hourly. Though not the case with HSTs, some IC trains are silent until within spitting distance of you, and if the worst case wcanerio occured and anyone got hit, you can be sure of two things: 1) the person hit would be at fault (i.e. trepassing on railway lines) and 2) the driver would get blamed. Honestly, people so idiotic to do this.

[Chester025]

Originally Posted by scotsman

Chester025 admits to being a trespasser in another thread, where he attempted to push the blame on to my colleagues for not noticing his stupidity.

Know your facts before posting.

Originally Posted by ainsworth74

We could also ask why are you so keen to have threads like this suppressed? I don't see any harm in having the odd thread like this crop up so what's the big deal?

Because another pointless thread just gives everyone a chance to jump on the bandwagon. I don't condone many cases of trespass, but I don't feel the need to go shouting it from the hillside!

[MattE2010]

Originally Posted by kyrano

network rail will ban even steam charters i can see the day photters and filmers will get us all banned .

It won't be jusst steam tours, it'll be everything: everything that is not a passenger or freight train (i.e. Charters and Specials) will be banned because of these idiots and people like the man at Thurston (the one where the 170 comes up behind him). It's sad, but it will be the acts of some selfish, idiotic, stupid, pathetic berks who will make NR say they will ban railtours
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Originally Posted by Chester025

Because another pointless thread just gives everyone a chance to jump on the bandwagon. I don't condone many cases of trespass, but I don't feel the need to go shouting it from the hillside!

Do you know how much danger they could potentially cause to staff and passengers? This isn't another bandwagon, it's sayingpeople thick enough to trepass will ruin it for everyone else!

[Chester025]

Originally Posted by MattE2010

Do you know how much danger they could potentially cause to staff and passengers? This isn't another bandwagon, it's sayingpeople thick enough to trepass will ruin it for everyone else!

And the point of saying it time and time again is?

[MattE2010]

Originally Posted by Chester025

And the point of saying it time and time again is?

I'm not repaeting myself over and over agian but this is a serious issue!!! Please all trespassers: don't be so stupid, you are gonna ruin it for all one day!

[philcfc1905]

Hi, the people in the photos posted do not look like they have any intention of using the crossing for its intended purpose to cross the line safely.
Can some of these people can be identifed and further action taken.
Would the guy standing there watching one of those kids being put into a body bag have a daft grin on his face then, I think not.
This kind of action just shows the stupidity of some people. These people make the working lives harder for all railway and police staff by having to clear up the mess after the acident, they also ruin an otherwise harmless hobby for all other enthusiasts.