RailUK Forums
RailUK Forums > Other Forums > General Discussion


Closed Thread
Thread Tools
Unread 7th July 2011, 15:30   #31
Paul Sidorczuk
Xenophon philosopher
Established Member
 
Paul Sidorczuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: 17 Apr 2011
Location: Extremely posh, even by Cheshire standards (Better than Alderley Edge or Wilmslow)
Posts: 8,480
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bignosemac View Post
And as far as I know, none the languages spoken by travellers (and that is not a pejorative, nor should it be used as such) is gibberish. Either Angloromani, Cant or Gammon would be most likely.
However the 2011 UK Census afforded Romanichals and Irish Travellers the status of being distinct ethnic groups.
If you look to the history of the Roma people and the development of the base of their languages, it must be remembered that the Roma were from the northern plains of India originally and as such, their language base has its origins in the sub-section of the Indo-European languages that includes both Bengali and Hindi.

As they spead outwards from Asia Minor, they first added words to their language that came from Greek, Persian and Amenian as these languages were the main ones in that first area of settlement.

As the move from that region in both western and northern areas over the last millenium, words from those regions have been again added from languages spoken in Germany, Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Slovakia plus specialised words from the Serbo-Croat and Hungarian parts of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
__________________
"A cynic, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin" -H.L.Mencken.
Sent from my stone monolith using cuneiform and runic symbols.
Paul Sidorczuk is online now  
Sponsored links - Registered users do not see these banners - join today!
Unread 7th July 2011, 15:50   #32
talltim
Member
 
Join Date: 17 Jan 2010
Posts: 494
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Sidorczuk View Post
If you look to the history of the Roma people and the development of the base of their languages, it must be remembered that the Roma were from the northern plains of India originally and as such, their language base has its origins in the sub-section of the Indo-European languages that includes both Bengali and Hindi.

As they spead outwards from Asia Minor, they first added words to their language that came from Greek, Persian and Amenian as these languages were the main ones in that first area of settlement.

As the move from that region in both western and northern areas over the last millenium, words from those regions have been again added from languages spoken in Germany, Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Slovakia plus specialised words from the Serbo-Croat and Hungarian parts of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
And after all that they ended up sounding like Brad Pitt?
__________________
Tim
talltim is offline  
Unread 7th July 2011, 17:12   #33
Paul Sidorczuk
Xenophon philosopher
Established Member
 
Paul Sidorczuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: 17 Apr 2011
Location: Extremely posh, even by Cheshire standards (Better than Alderley Edge or Wilmslow)
Posts: 8,480
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by talltim View Post
And after all that they ended up sounding like Brad Pitt?
Makes you wonder where Popeye the Sailor came from
__________________
"A cynic, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin" -H.L.Mencken.
Sent from my stone monolith using cuneiform and runic symbols.
Paul Sidorczuk is online now  
Unread 7th July 2011, 17:20   #34
bignosemac
Backseat mod apparently
Banned
 
Join Date: 12 Oct 2009
Posts: 2,417
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydro View Post
Best tell Channel 4 that, and all the travellers they filmed having their weddings.
And see the interviews (away from Channel 4) with many from "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" who were not happy with the name given to the programme, the way it was edited and the voiceover.
bignosemac is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 16:42.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright © 2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© RailUK Forums 2005 - the year after 2012