[AlterEgo]

Originally Posted by 185

nicked at Piccadilly by BTP, 720 hours community service.

I'm pretty sure it's not possible to be sentenced to 720 hours of community service.

Maximum I believe is about 300 or 360. Anything requiring higher is a prison term (suspended or otherwise).

[richw]

Originally Posted by AlterEgo

Maximum I believe is about 300 or 360. Anything requiring higher is a prison term (suspended or otherwise).

Maximum Per offence so 2 offences at 360 each will be the 720!

[AlterEgo]

Originally Posted by richw

Maximum Per offence so 2 offences at 360 each will be the 720!

To be served consecutively?

Never heard of it myself...

[richw]

Originally Posted by AlterEgo

To be served consecutively?

Never heard of it myself...

Not sure myself neither, It is a maximum of 360 hours per offence as you stated above though.

[PaulLothian]

Maximum 300 hours, and no individual can have more than 300 hours outstanding at any time. I believe that it is possible to have multiple maximum concurrent orders in England and Wales, which gives the courts more powers in the event of default by the offender (certainly one reason why Sheriffs like concurrent orders here in Scotland).

[SWTCommuter]

Originally Posted by Old Timer

Fraudulent use of the husband's ticket by the wife became a larger feature in the late 70s/early 80s when we were no longer allowed to stamp W on a ticket issued to a woman.

Prior to that, what happened was that husband 1 and 2 went to the Golf Club and let Wife 1 and 2 use their seasons. Queue the withdrawal of the tickets and a Section 5 Prosecution, Withdrawal in fare evasion cases always meant a refusal to issue a season ticket again to the original holder, so it was a far more expensive exercise than the fare "saved".

The opposite of course was when the husband used a W ticket for the football or a day out !

That reminds me of a ticket inspection on a VEP one morning back in the 1980s.

Guard: 'Does your wife buy your season ticket for you sir?'

Pin-striped commuter, outraged and turning purple as though accused of some bizarre sexual practice: 'What business is that of yours!?'

Guard, very calmly: 'It's just that you are travelling on a woman's ticket sir...'

Pin-striped commuter, meekly: 'Oh'.

[GodAtum]

What's a woman's ticket?

Also, didn't some uni guys hack an Oyster so they could travel for free?

[SWTCommuter]

Originally Posted by GodAtum

What's a woman's ticket?

Also, didn't some uni guys hack an Oyster so they could travel for free?

The old-style card season tickets used to have a large 'W' stamped across them if bought by a woman, as explained by Old Timer earlier in this thread.

[Moog_1984]

On the 1970s/ 80s rover tickets certain peoples would bleach out the stamp ink with alcohol then hypochlorite and restamp a date on.

Also scratch it cards: famously done with scalpels and two cards by devious peoples.

Allegedly. I read in a book somewhere once...

[Butts]

Originally Posted by Moog_1984

On the 1970s/ 80s rover tickets certain peoples would bleach out the stamp ink with alcohol then hypochlorite and restamp a date on.

Also scratch it cards: famously done with scalpels and two cards by devious peoples.

Allegedly. I read in a book somewhere once...

Sounds like they were refugees from the "escape committee" at Colditz Castle

[David]

Originally Posted by Moog_1984

On the 1970s/ 80s rover tickets certain peoples would bleach out the stamp ink with alcohol then hypochlorite and restamp a date on.

Also scratch it cards: famously done with scalpels and two cards by devious peoples.

Allegedly. I read in a book somewhere once...

Just like a Coast and Peaks being valid to the likes of Brighton or Great Yarmouth!

[richw]

Originally Posted by Moog_1984

Also scratch it cards: famously done with scalpels and two cards by devious peoples.

Not sure if you are aware of the citizen card, an acceptable proof of age, i knew of youngsters who used to scratch their date of birth out, and refill the space using numbers from a stationary shop of the correct size to make their citizencard show them as over 18, so as to drink etc. I was once working at a local bar, and a lad came in with a perfectly changed card. As a rugby enthusiast, i recognised him from an under 18 cup match i'd watched earlier that day, so i said to him "sorry, you were under 18 earlier at a rugby match i was watching, now your offering me ID saying your 21". His face was a picture, and it got better when i offered him that i could advise the cup committee, that his team, who were favourites for the competition were playing over aged players. He left the bar pretty quickly when i offered to do that"

[CHESHIRECAT]

Wasn't there a scam in Gatwick Booking Office in mid 80's involving magnets being plaved next to the new at the time ticket machines ? ... stopped the end of day reading being accurate

[island]

Originally Posted by Moog_1984

On the 1970s/ 80s rover tickets certain peoples would bleach out the stamp ink with alcohol then hypochlorite and restamp a date on.

That only worked in April, May, June, August, September, October and November though

[Moog_1984]

Originally Posted by island

That only worked in April, May, June, August, September, October and November though

The whole thing was an old fashioned roll barrel ink stamp.

I have it on good authority it was done to extend one weekers to month long ones though, with the then brand new technology of tippex laminate sheets.

.....allegedly a non disclosed insider source informs me via anonymous sms.