No Class 87 Return

matt · 3rd March 2006, 19:38

Post now irrelvant see bottom post

**Max** · 3rd March 2006, 23:05

What a shame, would have been great to see them out again

LucaZone · 4th March 2006, 13:37

So it will still be loco hauled, but what with the rakes be made up of? could still be an interesting photo op

87015 · 4th March 2006, 14:12

Current plan afaik is to use EWS skoda's, but it will be a stanby rake rather than booked diagram.

At least two 325s have had their power cars returned as well...

metrocammel · 5th March 2006, 17:39

I really do think that the seven's will return.... I cant accept that the last couple of weeks "seven action" was a coincidence. What with mk3 stock moves WB to OY, 87002 l/e from OY etc etc... I'm taking the view that with no official statements from Virgin, any of the 87 operators or EWS, anything can happen.... We shall wait & see!! (and touch a fair bit of wood!)

ikar · 5th March 2006, 18:07

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Originally Posted by metrocammel

I really do think that the seven's will return.... I cant accept that the last couple of weeks "seven action" was a coincidence. What with mk3 stock moves WB to OY, 87002 l/e from OY etc etc... I'm taking the view that with no official statements from Virgin, any of the 87 operators or EWS, anything can happen.... We shall wait & see!! (and touch a fair bit of wood!)

If there's no driver refreshment, there'll be no return of them.

87015 · 5th March 2006, 23:08

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Originally Posted by metrocammel

I really do think that the seven's will return.... I cant accept that the last couple of weeks "seven action" was a coincidence. What with mk3 stock moves WB to OY, 87002 l/e from OY etc etc... I'm taking the view that with no official statements from Virgin, any of the 87 operators or EWS, anything can happen.... We shall wait & see!! (and touch a fair bit of wood!)

optomism admired metcam!
87002 to replace 026 with GBRf for use on s96/m44 afaik, although these trains are expected to revert to unit operation around easter.

jonb · 8th March 2006, 18:48

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Originally Posted by 87015

these trains are expected to revert to unit operation around easter.

I'd question that!! Why have GB taken on more 87's if their going to revert BACK to operating the 325's alone. However a few weeks ago a single 325 did crawl through H & W heading North, seemed to be a fair few people in the front as well

matt · 8th March 2006, 20:54

I read somewhere that they were fixing the 325s

Aureol · 9th March 2006, 14:46

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Originally Posted by LucaZone

So it will still be loco hauled, but what with the rakes be made up of? could still be an interesting photo op

Did I hear someone say HSTs?

ChrisCooper · 10th March 2006, 15:52

The most likely alternative for locos are 90s from EWS. They have plenty spair (even though 'one' seem to break them regularly), with EWS having no work for them other than the odd railtour, so they are going to be more than happy to hire some more out to TOCs. HSTs arn't likely, since they would struggle to maintain the none EPS electric timings, and since the ex MML sets seem likely to end up with FGW and/or GNER, this only leaves the ex Virgin stuff, which is in rarther poor condition anyway.

matt · 21st March 2006, 22:02

According to wnxx it might be class 87s again

**Max** · 22nd March 2006, 19:42

But how can this be if no driver training has taken place?

matt · 22nd March 2006, 20:30

Latest posting suggest it will be class 87s starting in May/June. A test run apparently take place in the near future
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This has just been posted on class87gen

Quote:

From the Summer timetable (12/06/06) there is a MK3 set diagrammed Monday -
Fridays on-

0620 Rugby - Euston
1652 Euston - New Street
1900 New Street - Euston

Set will start and finish at Wembley and will sit in Euston as a "hot set"
during the day.

Expect the set to work at weekends for VXC.

Locos to be 87002 & 87026 with 004 as a spare.

**Max** · 22nd March 2006, 21:34

VXC. Will that mean Manchester-Birmingham?

3rd March 2006, 19:38	#1
matt Moderator Join Date: 30 Jun 2005 Location: Coventry Posts: 3,206	Class 87 Return!!! Post now irrelvant see bottom post __________________ Matt My Photos and Videos Echills Wood Railway Last edited by matt; 22nd March 2006 at 21:03.

5th March 2006, 17:39	#5
metrocammel Chief Executive Join Date: 11 Aug 2005 Location: Ashton, Lancashire Posts: 965	I really do think that the seven's will return.... I cant accept that the last couple of weeks "seven action" was a coincidence. What with mk3 stock moves WB to OY, 87002 l/e from OY etc etc... I'm taking the view that with no official statements from Virgin, any of the 87 operators or EWS, anything can happen.... We shall wait & see!! (and touch a fair bit of wood!) __________________

8th March 2006, 20:54	#9
matt Moderator Join Date: 30 Jun 2005 Location: Coventry Posts: 3,206	I read somewhere that they were fixing the 325s __________________ Matt My Photos and Videos Echills Wood Railway

21st March 2006, 22:02	#12
matt Moderator Join Date: 30 Jun 2005 Location: Coventry Posts: 3,206	According to wnxx it might be class 87s again __________________ Matt My Photos and Videos Echills Wood Railway

3rd March 2006, 23:05	#2
Max Admaxistrator Administrator Join Date: 8 Jun 2005 Location: Sheffield / Hull Posts: 3,048	What a shame, would have been great to see them out again

4th March 2006, 13:37	#3
LucaZone RS Track Master Executive Director Join Date: 24 Feb 2006 Location: West End, Surrey Posts: 742	So it will still be loco hauled, but what with the rakes be made up of? could still be an interesting photo op

4th March 2006, 14:12	#4
87015 TOC Owner Join Date: 3 Mar 2006 Location: Colchester Posts: 1,936	Current plan afaik is to use EWS skoda's, but it will be a stanby rake rather than booked diagram. At least two 325s have had their power cars returned as well...

10th March 2006, 15:52	#11
ChrisCooper Executive Director Join Date: 7 Sep 2005 Location: Loughborough Posts: 785	The most likely alternative for locos are 90s from EWS. They have plenty spair (even though 'one' seem to break them regularly), with EWS having no work for them other than the odd railtour, so they are going to be more than happy to hire some more out to TOCs. HSTs arn't likely, since they would struggle to maintain the none EPS electric timings, and since the ex MML sets seem likely to end up with FGW and/or GNER, this only leaves the ex Virgin stuff, which is in rarther poor condition anyway.

22nd March 2006, 19:42	#13
Max Admaxistrator Administrator Join Date: 8 Jun 2005 Location: Sheffield / Hull Posts: 3,048	But how can this be if no driver training has taken place?

22nd March 2006, 21:34	#15
Max Admaxistrator Administrator Join Date: 8 Jun 2005 Location: Sheffield / Hull Posts: 3,048	VXC. Will that mean Manchester-Birmingham?