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Class172 · 21st January 2012, 15:52

A90 towards Perth?

Zoe · 21st January 2012, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nym

"No offence" this is in a cutting...!

And yes...

That may well be so but what examples are there on motorways without hard shoulders in rural areas? I don't think the A74(M) over Beattock lacks hard shoulders does it? In the photo even though it is in a cutting there's no good reason not to build hard shoulders if it's a motorway.

Liam · 21st January 2012, 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoe

Looks like the A90 approaching Dundee from the north.

Yes, the top of the hill on the A90 approach down to Dundee.

Nym · 21st January 2012, 16:00

M42 north of the M6, "No Hard Shoulder for 27 Miles"

Most of the M90

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRD

The M90 is only just a motorway. It has some ridiculously sharp corners (including what is reputedly the tightest curve on the motorway network), and large parts of it lack hard shoulders, instead just having frequent lay-bys. This can, of course, be excused given the challenging geography.

Zoe · 21st January 2012, 16:00

I don't have a photo so open floor.

Ivo · 21st January 2012, 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoe

That may well be so but what examples are there on motorways without hard shoulders in rural areas? I don't think the A74(M) over Beattock lacks hard shoulders does it? In the photo even though it is in a cutting there's no good reason not to build hard shoulders if it's a motorway.

Would this (hence my answer) do?

Looking at the central reservation, it also looks like there's been an accident

Nym · 21st January 2012, 16:02

Ivo, we must stop being mean...

Zoe · 21st January 2012, 16:03

I'm surprised there isn't a minimum standard for motorways that requires hard shoulders. Certainly over in the US I am told that interstates do require a certain standard to be classified that way. One American I was talking to was actually surprised that there are even grade sepratated dual carriageways here that don't have hard shoulders. In the future though with Active Traffic Management the preferred option to reduce congestion it's likely that we will see more hard shoulder running.

Nym · 21st January 2012, 16:06

There technically is...

But no..
http://www.pathetic.org.uk/secretive...mmit_motorway/
and no...
http://www.pathetic.org.uk/former/a6144m/

Class172 · 21st January 2012, 16:08

Anyone care to post a picture…

Nym · 21st January 2012, 16:10

Don't look at the URL...

Ivo · 21st January 2012, 16:13

There appear to be directional arrows in the roads, even though the lanes are segregated by the diagonal markings anyway, and also a tell-tale "No Hard Shoulders" sign. That suggests a motorway class single carriageway, which there are literally a couple of.

Considering (a) your location and (b) the links you gave a few minutes ago, the obvious choice would be the A6144(M).

Also, what is meant by "stop being mean"?

I'm not mean

Class172 · 21st January 2012, 16:13

I know where that is but I shall let the others have a guess.

EDIT: Ivo has worked it out.

Nym · 21st January 2012, 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivo

There appear to be directional arrows in the roads, even though the lanes are segregated by the diagonal markings anyway, and also a tell-tale "No Hard Shoulders" sign. That suggests a motorway class single carriageway, which there are literally a couple of.

Considering (a) your location and (b) the links you gave a few minutes ago, the obvious choice would be the A6144(M).

Also, what is meant by "stop being mean"?

I'm not mean

Correct, the now deceased A6144M, now the A6144...

Fun junction at the end of this, 3 directions all the A6144... also now two A6144 junctions onto the M60

Zoe · 21st January 2012, 16:16

I did say that you could post photos in the "Guess the road" quiz but it would seem people would prefer a separate photos only quiz then and the other quiz should be changed to text descriptions of roads only?

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21st January 2012, 16:00	#20
Zoe Established Member Join Date: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 5,669	I don't have a photo so open floor.

21st January 2012, 16:03	#23
Zoe Established Member Join Date: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 5,669	I'm surprised there isn't a minimum standard for motorways that requires hard shoulders. Certainly over in the US I am told that interstates do require a certain standard to be classified that way. One American I was talking to was actually surprised that there are even grade sepratated dual carriageways here that don't have hard shoulders. In the future though with Active Traffic Management the preferred option to reduce congestion it's likely that we will see more hard shoulder running.

21st January 2012, 16:13	#27
Ivo Starmie Established Member Join Date: 8 Jan 2010 Location: Bath (or Southend) Posts: 7,115	There appear to be directional arrows in the roads, even though the lanes are segregated by the diagonal markings anyway, and also a tell-tale "No Hard Shoulders" sign. That suggests a motorway class single carriageway, which there are literally a couple of. Considering (a) your location and (b) the links you gave a few minutes ago, the obvious choice would be the A6144(M). Also, what is meant by "stop being mean"? I'm not mean __________________ Now Available: Ivo's Blog!

21st January 2012, 16:16	#30
Zoe Established Member Join Date: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 5,669	I did say that you could post photos in the "Guess the road" quiz but it would seem people would prefer a separate photos only quiz then and the other quiz should be changed to text descriptions of roads only?