Railway General Knowledge. - Page 13

EM2 · 11th February 2012, 12:54

Because they were used to being on steam engines themselves, with open cab sides?

Nym · 11th February 2012, 13:26

Because the windows leak? Are open?

Welshman · 11th February 2012, 14:08

Nym is thinking on the right lines [if you'll pardon the metaphor!].
But it was nothing to do with open or leaky windows.

Schnellzug · 11th February 2012, 14:12

Cos they could scoop up ballast and hurl it in all directions, e.g. perhaps through the Window.

Welshman · 11th February 2012, 15:40

I think the scoop would break or buckle before that would have happened, but the front windows were the cause of concern.

GazK · 11th February 2012, 16:19

Because the water would come in through the roof vents?

Welshman · 11th February 2012, 17:31

You're getting very close.
The concern was not so much water.

Mvann · 11th February 2012, 17:40

Pressure of water could break the windscreen?

deltic1989 · 11th February 2012, 18:20

Because the water would tend to engulf the tender and the first carrige of the train. in engulfing the tender the water could knock bits of coal out of the tender into the windscreen of the DMU?

Welshman · 11th February 2012, 20:25

Yes.
Deltic 1989 has got it!

If the fireman miscalculated and left it too late to wind the scoop out of the trough, the tender tank would overfill, causing water to gush out of the vents on the top, with the danger that lumps of coal could also be disturbed off the tender and into the path of the passing dmu.

Think of the wide expanse of glass at the front of some of the first gen dmus - particularly the early Derby Lightweights, or the Cl 104s, 108s etc, and you can imagine the disasterous results of hitting a lump of coal at 65-70 mph.

deltic1989 · 11th February 2012, 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshman

Yes.
Deltic 1989 has got it!

If the fireman miscalculated and left it too late to wind the scoop out of the trough, the tender tank would overfill, causing water to gush out of the vents on the top, with the danger that lumps of coal could also be disturbed off the tender and into the path of the passing dmu.

Think of the wide expanse of glass at the front of some of the first gen dmus - particularly the early Derby Lightweights, or the Cl 104s, 108s etc, and you can imagine the disasterous results of hitting a lump of coal at 65-70 mph.

Really?!?! That was a total guess

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heres my question.

Apart from the stations, what connects the game of Monopoly with the railways?

Nym · 11th February 2012, 21:19

The colours are the same as tube line colours...

Welshman · 11th February 2012, 21:22

i] One of the metal tokens used to mark your progress round the board is a railway locomotive.

ii] The game was thought to have been originally introduced to illustrate the tax theories of Henry George, a 19c American writer, politician and political economist. George did not support the buiding of new railroads, claiming they only benefitted the lucky few who invested in them. This gained him the enmity of the Central Pacific Railroad executives, who plotted to ensure his defeat in the elections to the Californian State Assembly.

deltic1989 · 11th February 2012, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nym

The colours are the same as tube line colours...

I had'nt noticed that, but now you come to mention it. but not the answer I'm looking for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshman

i] One of the metal tokens used to mark your progress round the board is a railway locomotive.

ii] The game was thought to have been originally introduced to illustrate the tax theories of Henry George, a 19c American writer, politician and political economist. George did not support the buiding of new railroads, claiming they only benefitted the lucky few who invested in them. This gained him the enmity of the Central Pacific Railroad executives, who plotted to ensure his defeat in the elections to the Californian State Assembly.

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There isn't a loco in my set, but there may be in others.

All good answers but not what I'm looking for.

dzug2 · 11th February 2012, 21:49

The US version has entire railroads rather than stations?

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11th February 2012, 13:26	#182
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11th February 2012, 21:19	#192
Nym MIET AMIMechE MIEEE(Soon) Established Member Join Date: 2 Mar 2007 Location: In a tunnel, not in London... Posts: 6,365	The colours are the same as tube line colours... __________________ The views expressed above do not necessarily reflect those of my current, future or former employers, the IET, IMechE or InstMC.

11th February 2012, 14:08	#183
Welshman Established Member Join Date: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 1,216	Nym is thinking on the right lines [if you'll pardon the metaphor!]. But it was nothing to do with open or leaky windows.

11th February 2012, 14:12	#184
Schnellzug le Petit Train Jaune Established Member Join Date: 22 Aug 2011 Location: Evercreech Junction Posts: 2,926	Cos they could scoop up ballast and hurl it in all directions, e.g. perhaps through the Window.

11th February 2012, 15:40	#185
Welshman Established Member Join Date: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 1,216	I think the scoop would break or buckle before that would have happened, but the front windows were the cause of concern.

11th February 2012, 16:19	#186
GazK New Member Join Date: 11 Feb 2012 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 3	Because the water would come in through the roof vents?

11th February 2012, 17:31	#187
Welshman Established Member Join Date: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 1,216	You're getting very close. The concern was not so much water.

11th February 2012, 17:40	#188
Mvann Member Join Date: 19 Mar 2010 Location: Peterborough Posts: 392	Pressure of water could break the windscreen?

11th February 2012, 18:20	#189
deltic1989 Napier Power!!! Established Member Join Date: 21 Sep 2010 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1,055	Because the water would tend to engulf the tender and the first carrige of the train. in engulfing the tender the water could knock bits of coal out of the tender into the windscreen of the DMU?

11th February 2012, 20:25	#190
Welshman Established Member Join Date: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 1,216	Yes. Deltic 1989 has got it! If the fireman miscalculated and left it too late to wind the scoop out of the trough, the tender tank would overfill, causing water to gush out of the vents on the top, with the danger that lumps of coal could also be disturbed off the tender and into the path of the passing dmu. Think of the wide expanse of glass at the front of some of the first gen dmus - particularly the early Derby Lightweights, or the Cl 104s, 108s etc, and you can imagine the disasterous results of hitting a lump of coal at 65-70 mph.

11th February 2012, 21:22	#193
Welshman Established Member Join Date: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 1,216	i] One of the metal tokens used to mark your progress round the board is a railway locomotive. ii] The game was thought to have been originally introduced to illustrate the tax theories of Henry George, a 19c American writer, politician and political economist. George did not support the buiding of new railroads, claiming they only benefitted the lucky few who invested in them. This gained him the enmity of the Central Pacific Railroad executives, who plotted to ensure his defeat in the elections to the Californian State Assembly.

11th February 2012, 21:49	#195
dzug2 Member Join Date: 5 Feb 2011 Posts: 566	The US version has entire railroads rather than stations?