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Unread 26th March 2012, 22:02   #16
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Luthansa Miles&More is the poor programme in Star and far inferior to BA's Executive Club.
If you can, and you want to stay in Star, go for Aegean, its the best bay far on miles for getting to the next status, and upgrading. Though its risky being a Greek airline they did actually make money in 2011.(or ive also heared good things about Asiana)
You should be able to merge into BAs Executive Club, and I think leagally as they are merging, you would have the legal right to do so under EU law. If I was you I would go for the BA one.
Yes, given the choice, I think I would go for BA Executive Club. I have flown with them twice in the last year and like Terminal 5 a lot.
If and when the BMI takeover is completed, I wonder what new destinations BA will introduce. The issue of emerging markets in Asia has been well publicised. For example, CDG, FRA and AMS between them, serve 7 destinations in China over and above those served from LHR. Also, could we see the likes of Jakarta or Manila; if KLM can fill their 777's to these destinations then surly BA can? If not a 777 then there is always the 787 to come. This would be an ideal aircraft for emerging markets.

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.......Also, could we see the likes of Jakarta or Manila; if KLM can fill their 777's to these destinations then surly BA can?
In the case of Jakarta, the Netherlands has its historical links with Indonesia, hence the busy KLM services.
BA couldn't hope to do the same amount of business to Indonesia from the UK.

Similarly, KLM doesn't serve some of the British Commonweath destinations on the BA long haul network, or has fewer flights to them.
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Unread 27th March 2012, 06:07   #18
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I'm not sure if I could justify moving over to BA/OW since they are nonexistent at Birmingham and travelling to/from London is out the question. For that matter SkyTeam isn't going to happen.

Lufthansa seems nice and might have a look although it's going to be a real challenge to attain HON level.


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I'm leaning towards BA - though for any Oneworld or Star program I'd have to go to London. Bristol just has Skyteam through KLM and Air Frog, (for most fares they only give 25% of the miles), Exeter is even worse with just Flybe who's rewards4all is useless!
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I'm leaning towards BA - though for any Oneworld or Star program I'd have to go to London. Bristol just has Skyteam through KLM and Air Frog, (for most fares they only give 25% of the miles), Exeter is even worse with just Flybe who's rewards4all is useless!
I've only ever redeemed points for the annual lounge pass and even then a mini fridge full of Stella and Tonic has always been the centrepiece.

All seriousness now I've been looking at BA today and worked out people could get BA Gold with a good mileage run for about £900 which isn't bad. Very tempted to take out this "insurance" before BMI go bump as I'll be left with nothing. Then a simple 20,000 miles with Aegean to get Star Gold again.
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In the case of Jakarta, the Netherlands has its historical links with Indonesia, hence the busy KLM services.
I take your point about the historic links but I believe there are two reasons why we could see BA on this route.
First, KLM has long been punching above its weight in aviation terms. So, many of its passengers will be transiting through its AMS hub. For BA (OneWorld) to keep pace with Star Alliance and Skyteam (not to mention Emirates) they need to plug a few of their gaps.
Second, Indonesia is in the top 20 largest economies and has significant Mining, Oil and Commodities interests. Some of the UK's largest companies operate in this field and this could give BA a steady supply of high yielding business passengers.

Obviously, time will tell.

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I've only ever redeemed points for the annual lounge pass and even then a mini fridge full of Stella and Tonic has always been the centrepiece.

All seriousness now I've been looking at BA today and worked out people could get BA Gold with a good mileage run for about £900 which isn't bad. Very tempted to take out this "insurance" before BMI go bump as I'll be left with nothing. Then a simple 20,000 miles with Aegean to get Star Gold again.
I've heard that from a friend who had to go Economy Plus when the normal seats had sold out. She looked in the lounge at Exeter and saw pretty much what you described!

ooh I might have to look into that for next year (I'm planning a US trip which would get me half way to Bronze from a clean slate)
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Not surprisingly, IAG has been given approval to purchase BMI by European competition authorities.
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Not surprisingly, IAG has been given approval to purchase BMI by European competition authorities.
Apparently conditional on them releasing 14 landing slots at Heathrow.
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Apparently conditional on them releasing 14 landing slots at Heathrow.
It will be interesting to see if Virgin bid for the slots given how vocal Richard Branson was regarding the takeover.
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Given that Virgin lease out several slots they already own I can't see them getting any of the new ones.
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Given that Virgin lease out several slots they already own I can't see them getting any of the new ones.
Good point. Just PR from SRB then!!
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Anybody watch 'Air Crash Investigation'? It's been a new series for the past couple of weeks, 9pm Monday nights on Nat geo (Sky 526, also available on sky go)
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Just looking at a Multi City trip (Probably LON-BOS-LAX-LON) for next year and BA want about £800-900 return. (Direct BA to BOS and from LAX and AA BOS-LAX) but playing with Kayak threw up US Airways for £600 - OK there are more stops (in Philadelphia on the London legs and Phoenix on the Trans-Con).

But having heard some Horrific things about US Airways transatlantic (tight seats, poor service) I have to wonder if it's worth the saving.
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Some interesting comments above about Indonesia and The Philippines, who knows what will happen in the future.
BA used to fly to Manila (MNL) not so long ago as an extension of one of their Hong Kong (HKG) flights. Likewise Taipei (TPE) was also on the list as an extension of one of the HKG flights. It was something like TPE 5 times a week and MNL twice or something like that. I know the BA fifth freedom rights were well used from HKG - MNL by domestic helpers going to and from home. The ticket prices were much cheaper too than PR and CX on the route at the time.
I wonder if the market is there for a BA flight LHR to MNL direct, maybe 3 times a week or so?

As an aside, yesterday at one of the Airport Express stations in Hong Kong there was a departure board for the airport showing the 11:45 Airasia flight to KL was delayed to 11:35. Not sure if that was a 23h 50m delay or a typo. Hope it was a typo...
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