[Schnellzug]

Originally Posted by ralphchadkirk

That wouldn't affect anyone's culpability for injuries sustained.

So if, say, someone was to run out onto the track at Monaco in front of Jenson Hamilton, he'd be the one to blame if he ran over the fool? You could hardly blame the Organisers for not fencing off the whole river to prevent some fool jumping in.

[ralphchadkirk]

Originally Posted by Schnellzug

So if, say, someone was to run out onto the track at Monaco in front of Jenson Hamilton, he'd be the one to blame if he ran over the fool? You could hardly blame the Organisers for not fencing off the whole river to prevent some fool jumping in.

No, because he would lack the mens rea. As I believe I have already said.

If I am on railway property illegally and a driver shoots me, he would still be liable, regardless of the fact I am not meant to be there. My illegal presence does not detract from culpability, as somewhat demonstrated in the case of British Railways Board v Herrington.

[jonmorris0844]

Originally Posted by Schnellzug

So if, say, someone was to run out onto the track at Monaco in front of Jenson Hamilton, he'd be the one to blame if he ran over the fool? You could hardly blame the Organisers for not fencing off the whole river to prevent some fool jumping in.

In Monaco I'm sure, as well as every other track in the world. Yet if it happened at Silverstone, it would somehow be the fault of the race organisers - or the Tories.

[Peter Mugridge]

It did happen at Silverstone a few years ago didn't it? Some priest protesting about something nearly got run over in mid race? Can't remember who got the blame for it, though...

[Bungle73]

It's happened at quite a few circuits over the years. If an unauthorised person (or persons) is able to get access to the track the organisers must hold some liability. I'm sure circuits have been sanctioned over it in the past.
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"It" being a track invasion. I can only recall one incident of someone actually being hit a car (at least since the '70s), and that was a marshal; and very nasty it was too.

[Butts]

Originally Posted by Bungle73

It's happened at quite a few circuits over the years. If an unauthorised person (or persons) is able to get access to the track the organisers must hold some liability. I'm sure circuits have been sanctioned over it in the past.
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"It" being a track invasion. I can only recall one incident of someone actually being hit a car (at least since the '70s), and that was a marshal; and very nasty it was too.

Peter will probably remember Erika Roe at Twickenham - if you'd been hit by one of those you would have problems (not nasty )

[Paul Sidorczuk]

A sad ending to a protest during a national event did occur in 1913 when a suffragate, Emily Davidson, threw herself under the hooves of a racehorse owned by King George V towards the end of the Derby that year.

[MattE2010]

Originally Posted by Paul Sidorczuk

A sad ending to a protest during a national event did occur in 1913 when a suffragate, Emily Davidson, threw herself underthe hooves of a racehorse owned by King George V towards the end of the Derby that year.

It was at Tattenham Corner on Epsom.

It has been debated though as to whether it was intentional - for many weeks previously she had been practising distracting horses and attempting to place banners on them at speed, however when it came to the actual 'event', she got it fatally wrong.

[Peter Mugridge]

Originally Posted by Butts

Peter will probably remember Erika Roe at Twickenham - if you'd been hit by one of those you would have problems (not nasty )

Yes.... I was at my gran's close to the ground that day; my dad was a St John ambulance man on duty at the match and he was in close proximity to the incident, which we later watched on the BBC news that evening!

Off the top of my head, wasn't that the day the Deltic Scotsman Farewell ran? I remember the day more for that than for Miss Roe's antics!

[table38]

Originally Posted by bignosemac

Bloke apparently heard on the bank shouting, "Trenton, Trenton, TRENTON!! Oh Jesus Christ. TRENTON!"

Someone stole your idea - I'd sue

[LE Greys]

Apparently, he was protesting against elitism. Well, where should I start? Firstly, you hardly need to show yourself to be anything more than mediocre to be accused of being elitist these days. Some people are just better at doing something than others. By that definition, the Olympics are elitist, Manchester United are elitist and the Royal Marines are elitist. If what he's really against is financial priviledge, then he has more of a point, but shouldn't aim his protest at a sporting event.

Secondly, even taking his point that it is wrong to be elitist, is this really the right target to aim at? It certainly gets a lot of publicity, but most of that would be negative because it makes him look like an idiot. He risked his life out of what appeared to be jealousy. Have a crack at a society event or a film premiere! It would be a lot funnier for a start, more of a practical joke than a disruption, and people like that.

Finally, he might welcome the presence of an "elitist" soon, in the form of an Oxbridge-educated barrister.

Incidentally, that former priest who ran onto Hanger Strait also pushed over the leader of the Olympic marathon. How the athlete stopped himself from punching him on the nose is a mystery to me.

[wintonian]

I suppose there's not much point in streeking in the Thames.

Especially if you are male.