[RPM]

I understood the Chiltern Stratford - Oxfords were done purely to appease the "powers that be" in Oxford who, when Chiltern took over the Stratford service from FGW, were aghast that they'd no longer be able to get back from the Theatre.

[Eagle]

Originally Posted by RPM

I understood the Chiltern Stratford - Oxfords were done purely to appease the "powers that be" in Oxford who, when Chiltern took over the Stratford service from FGW, were aghast that they'd no longer be able to get back from the Theatre.

Exactly. And that's what makes it parliamentary: a run purely to keep a service (in this case through from Stratford to Oxford) open.

[John55]

Originally Posted by Eagle

Exactly. And that's what makes it parliamentary: a run purely to keep a service (in this case through from Stratford to Oxford) open.

If the Chiltern Stratford to Oxford service was withdrawn which line would have to go through the closure procedure?

[Cherry_Picker]

It's to keep the flow open. If Stratford to Oxford is to remain open as a flow then either FGW need to go to Stratford or Chiltern drivers need to sign Aynho junction to Oxford. If neither of those happen then the service could disappear and be lost for years.

[Eagle]

Originally Posted by John55

If the Chiltern Stratford to Oxford service was withdrawn which line would have to go through the closure procedure?

Nothing, but as I keep saying that's not the point of a parliamentary service. It's to do with services between places, not just to do with physical bits of rail.

[Requeststop]

Originally Posted by yorkie

Yep, see: http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C94390/2012/5/14


Didn't run on bank holiday Mon 7 May, see: http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C94390

I've been wanting to do Paddington - Kings Sutton via Greenford to South Ruislip for ages - Is there a service still?
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Originally Posted by Eagle

More than that in fact. Some parly services exist purely to keep a service in existence, such as Chiltern's late-night Stratford to Oxford services, or LM's Gloucester run.

Being parliamentary has no relation to frequency.

What is this LM service to Gloucester?

[Mutant Lemming]

[QUOTE=Requeststop;1087868]I've been wanting to do Paddington - Kings Sutton via Greenford to South Ruislip for ages - Is there a service still?


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There is an 11:36 Paddington to W.Ruislip but you would have to change at West Ruislip, Gerrards Cross and Bicester and you wouldn't get to Kings Sutton till 16:12.

[MattE2010]

Originally Posted by Requeststop

What is this LM service to Gloucester?

The 2300 Birmingham New St-Worcester Shrub Hill, it gets extended to Gloucester via Foregate St and Cheltenham Spa on Fridays only, arriving at 0020.

[Daz28]

Originally Posted by Eagle

Nothing, but as I keep saying that's not the point of a parliamentary service. It's to do with services between places, not just to do with physical bits of rail.

I thought that the definition of a Parliamentary Service was a minimal service run to avoid the need to go through the formal closure procedure when withdrawing a rail service?

The Chiltern service to Paddington is not to avoid a service closure. I don't believe they are required as part of their franchise to operate a service to Paddington.

Chiltern could switch it to ECS and there would be no comeback. They run the service purely to keep their drivers route knowledge in case of diversions. They choose to run it five days a week to ensure all drivers get sufficient time into Paddington. I don't believe it is a Parliamentary Service at all.

[Peter Mugridge]

Originally Posted by Mutant Lemming

There is an 11:36 Paddington to W.Ruislip but you would have to change at West Ruislip, Gerrards Cross and Bicester and you wouldn't get to Kings Sutton till 16:12.

13.12 surely?

11.36 Paddington - Gerrard's Cross 12.08
12.13 Gerrard's Cross - High Wycombe 12.30
12.35 High Wycombe - King's Sutton 13.12

[Mutant Lemming]

Originally Posted by Peter Mugridge

13.12 surely?

11.36 Paddington - Gerrard's Cross 12.08
12.13 Gerrard's Cross - High Wycome 12.30
12.35 High Wycome - King's Sutton 13.12

Not according to this.........

http://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/si...r%202012_0.pdf

[Peter Mugridge]

I'm quoting the NRTT.

[Mutant Lemming]

Originally Posted by Peter Mugridge

I'm quoting the NRTT.

So one of them isn't correct. Will have to see next time I am in the Paddington vicinity at 11:30 whether the train still runs through to Gerrards Cross or, as per Chiltern's timetable, now terminates at West Ruislip.

[MCR247]

West Ruislip from what I can see. Then works 5H33 to Marylebone and then 2B32 to Aylesbury Vale Parkway?

[Peter Mugridge]

Originally Posted by Mutant Lemming

So one of them isn't correct. Will have to see next time I am in the Paddington vicinity at 11:30 whether the train still runs through to Gerrards Cross or, as per Chiltern's timetable, now terminates at West Ruislip.

Interesting.... just looked at the NRTT again online and the 11.36 has vanished altogether although the inboubd arriving at 11.32 is still shown... The plot thickens!