XC coach I

harz99 · 24th May 2012, 16:36

Can anyone tell me what type of stock/formation would have a coach letter I (as in eye)?

I'm reserved in coach I on the XC 0823 WKF to BPW (0644 ex NCL to PLY) on Friday 8th June, and my searches have shown nothing.

Thanks in advance.

All Line Rover · 24th May 2012, 16:37

The HST doesn't have a Coach I, so I can only assume this is a double-Voyager.

Eagle · 24th May 2012, 16:38

Double Vogayer; it'll have the formation A-(B)-C-D-F—G-(H)-I-J-L (bracketed letters only present on 221s, not 220s).

A Virgin double Voyager, for reference, would be A-B-C-D-E—G-H-J-K-L.

harz99 · 24th May 2012, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Eagle

Double Vogayer; it'll have the formation A-(B)-C-D-F—G-(H)-I-J-L (bracketed letters only present on 221s, not 220s).

A Virgin double Voyager, for reference, would be A-B-C-D-E—G-H-J-K-L.

Thanks for that. Shame, I had hoped for something better than a Voyager.

So it'll be wait on the platform around the end of the first 4 coaches and see which way round the formation is - something I've got used to with Tpex double unit services north of Preston!

Eagle · 24th May 2012, 17:26

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Originally Posted by harz99

So it'll be wait on the platform around the end of the first 4 coaches and see which way round the formation is - something I've got used to with Tpex double unit services north of Preston!

Actually, each of the units could be either way round. I've been on sets which go A-C-D-F-L-J-I-G before (which along with the lack of corridor connections resulted in loads of people not being able to get to their reserved seats).

SalopSparky · 25th May 2012, 00:36

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Originally Posted by Eagle

Actually, each of the units could be either way round. I've been on sets which go A-C-D-F-L-J-I-G before (which along with the lack of corridor connections resulted in loads of people not being able to get to their reserved seats).

Between Basingstoke and Bournemouth (and presumably at Guilford for the daily Newcastle service) XC stock formations are displayed on the platform CIS.
I don't know if this is done in other areas

trolleyman · 25th May 2012, 05:00

The train is booked a reversal as DBY. If the crew have set up the train correctly I should be the front set

harz99 · 25th May 2012, 06:33

Thanks Trolleyman; still sounds like my original plan of waiting near where the 4th coach should stop is best then as it gives time to get on either unit.

button_boxer · 25th May 2012, 08:02

In my experience with XC the "first class at the front/rear" indication on departure screens is only right about 60-70% of the time. I guess it comes from running a network with so many opportunities for expected or unexpected reversals (they can run either way out of Birmingham towards Bristol, or out of Newcastle towards Durham, for example).

David10 · 25th May 2012, 09:39

XC services are being diverted via Toton from 4th - 8th June with services from the north approaching Derby from the south hence the reversal movement.

As a result XC diagrams are being reshuffled to take into account the increased journey times. According to XC's seat reservation system, the 0644 NCL - PLY and 1523 PLY - LDS will be made up of 2 Voyagers throughout.

185 · 25th May 2012, 09:41

*until one half is required for a B-exam and it goes short formed, again

harz99 · 25th May 2012, 20:59

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Originally Posted by 185

*until one half is required for a B-exam and it goes short formed, again

Cheers 185!! Shortformed on your namesake on Sundays is bad enough without the prospect of several hours on one Voyager vice two thank you.

24th May 2012, 16:36	#1
harz99 Member Join Date: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 289	XC coach I Can anyone tell me what type of stock/formation would have a coach letter I (as in eye)? I'm reserved in coach I on the XC 0823 WKF to BPW (0644 ex NCL to PLY) on Friday 8th June, and my searches have shown nothing. Thanks in advance.

24th May 2012, 16:38	#3
Eagle has feathers Established Member Join Date: 20 Feb 2011 Location: Leamingrad / Blanfrancisco Posts: 4,426	Double Vogayer; it'll have the formation A-(B)-C-D-F—G-(H)-I-J-L (bracketed letters only present on 221s, not 220s). A Virgin double Voyager, for reference, would be A-B-C-D-E—G-H-J-K-L. __________________ Coupled to 90019 ♥

25th May 2012, 09:39	#10
David10 Member Join Date: 25 May 2012 Location: Manchester Posts: 385	XC services are being diverted via Toton from 4th - 8th June with services from the north approaching Derby from the south hence the reversal movement. As a result XC diagrams are being reshuffled to take into account the increased journey times. According to XC's seat reservation system, the 0644 NCL - PLY and 1523 PLY - LDS will be made up of 2 Voyagers throughout. Last edited by David10; 25th May 2012 at 09:44.

25th May 2012, 09:41	#11
185 "no, it's not valid" Established Member Join Date: 29 Aug 2010 Location: In the aisle. Posts: 2,169	*until one half is required for a B-exam and it goes short formed, again __________________

24th May 2012, 16:37	#2
All Line Rover Established Member Join Date: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 3,209	The HST doesn't have a Coach I, so I can only assume this is a double-Voyager.

25th May 2012, 05:00	#7
trolleyman Member Join Date: 16 Oct 2011 Posts: 39	The train is booked a reversal as DBY. If the crew have set up the train correctly I should be the front set

25th May 2012, 06:33	#8
harz99 Member Join Date: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 289	Thanks Trolleyman; still sounds like my original plan of waiting near where the 4th coach should stop is best then as it gives time to get on either unit.

25th May 2012, 08:02	#9
button_boxer Member Join Date: 12 Nov 2009 Posts: 606	In my experience with XC the "first class at the front/rear" indication on departure screens is only right about 60-70% of the time. I guess it comes from running a network with so many opportunities for expected or unexpected reversals (they can run either way out of Birmingham towards Bristol, or out of Newcastle towards Durham, for example).