What are difference between Chiltern only and via High wycombe tickets?

TSR :D · 7th August 2012, 19:00

I'm not sure if I've asked this question before but I'm planning to buy BMO - MYB ticket and I have two options stated on the title.

What are the differences between them?

hairyhandedfool · 7th August 2012, 19:08

'Rte Chiltern Trains only' allows you only to use Chilterns trains, it cannot be excessed to use any other train operating company (TOC).

'Rte High Wycombe' allows you to use any TOC, but your ticket is only valid on trains which pass through or stop at High Wycombe, or for use on routes where a cheaper fare between your origin and destination applies. It can be excessed for use on another TOC or route.

dzug2 · 7th August 2012, 19:18

A route High Wycombe ticket would allow the use of other operators on the Birmingham - Banbury or even Kings Sutton section of the journey

David Goddard · 7th August 2012, 19:26

No expert, but is part of this a legacy from Wrexham & Shropshire days?

TSR :D · 7th August 2012, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by dzug2

A route High Wycombe ticket would allow the use of other operators on the Birmingham - Banbury or even Kings Sutton section of the journey

And what other operators this would be?

clagmonster · 7th August 2012, 19:45

Birmingham-Coventry: Virgin, LM
Birmingham-Coventry-Leamington-Banbury: XC
Bimingham-Solihull-Leamington: LM
Banbury-Kings Sutton: FGW
West Ruislip-South Ruislip: LUL

Lad Brookes · 7th August 2012, 19:47

CrossCountry (Banbury-Birmingham), London Midland (Leamington/Dorridge/Coventry-Birmingham), Virgin (Coventry-Birmingham), fGW (Banbury-King's Sutton)

SS4 · 7th August 2012, 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Goddard

No expert, but is part of this a legacy from Wrexham & Shropshire days?

Don't think so. IIRC it [Chiltern Only] came in when Chiltern simplified (and took advantage to raise prices at the same time) the fares with the opening of Mainline

bignosemac · 7th August 2012, 19:48

The ticket will be issued from/to Birmingham Stations. Therefore you could travel with CrossCountry between Birmingham and Banbury.

LexyBoy · 7th August 2012, 19:50

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Originally Posted by David Goddard

No expert, but is part of this a legacy from Wrexham & Shropshire days?

Before privatisation there were no TOC specific fares (obviously!) so geographic routes were used. The High Wycombe fares date from this time and are protected fares (i.e. Can't be removed by Chiltern). The Chiltern Only fares are a fudge to get Chiltern's m-tickets to work IIRC and aren't supposed to be sold through other means.

tony_mac · 7th August 2012, 19:51

here is a previous thread (from last year)
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=692383

dzug2 · 7th August 2012, 19:55

And ATW (New Street to International) also comes into the picture as an alternative operator

Cherry_Picker · 7th August 2012, 22:31

Just out of pure curiosity, would a route High Wycombe ticket be valid via Banbury > Oxford > Bicester Town > walk to Bicester North > Marylebone? I presume it would. It would have to be valid once there are direct trains from Oxford to London via High Wycombe, wouldnt it?

34D · 7th August 2012, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry_Picker

Just out of pure curiosity, would a route High Wycombe ticket be valid via Banbury > Oxford > Bicester Town > walk to Bicester North > Marylebone? I presume it would. It would have to be valid once there are direct trains from Oxford to London via High Wycombe, wouldnt it?

Are you referring here to an Oxford-London Terminals ticket?

Cherry_Picker · 7th August 2012, 22:38

Nope, a Birmingham/Leamington/Banbury to London (route High Wycombe) ticket.

7th August 2012, 19:00	#1
TSR :D Member Join Date: 19 Nov 2011 Posts: 128	What are difference between Chiltern only and via High wycombe tickets? I'm not sure if I've asked this question before but I'm planning to buy BMO - MYB ticket and I have two options stated on the title. What are the differences between them?

7th August 2012, 19:08	#2
hairyhandedfool TOC employee Established Member Join Date: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 5,187	'Rte Chiltern Trains only' allows you only to use Chilterns trains, it cannot be excessed to use any other train operating company (TOC). 'Rte High Wycombe' allows you to use any TOC, but your ticket is only valid on trains which pass through or stop at High Wycombe, or for use on routes where a cheaper fare between your origin and destination applies. It can be excessed for use on another TOC or route. __________________ These views are my own and not, in any way, those of my employer, though they may choose to agree with them if they wish.

7th August 2012, 19:26	#4
David Goddard Member Join Date: 8 Aug 2011 Location: Reading Posts: 491	No expert, but is part of this a legacy from Wrexham & Shropshire days? __________________ Owner of 150103 (first kop) and 47406 (The original "Rail Riders" locomotive)

7th August 2012, 19:18	#3
dzug2 Member Join Date: 5 Feb 2011 Posts: 566	A route High Wycombe ticket would allow the use of other operators on the Birmingham - Banbury or even Kings Sutton section of the journey

7th August 2012, 19:45	#6
clagmonster Established Member Join Date: 8 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,479	Birmingham-Coventry: Virgin, LM Birmingham-Coventry-Leamington-Banbury: XC Bimingham-Solihull-Leamington: LM Banbury-Kings Sutton: FGW West Ruislip-South Ruislip: LUL

7th August 2012, 19:47	#7
Lad Brookes Member Join Date: 9 Nov 2010 Posts: 125	CrossCountry (Banbury-Birmingham), London Midland (Leamington/Dorridge/Coventry-Birmingham), Virgin (Coventry-Birmingham), fGW (Banbury-King's Sutton)

7th August 2012, 19:48	#9
bignosemac Backseat mod apparently Banned Join Date: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 2,417	The ticket will be issued from/to Birmingham Stations. Therefore you could travel with CrossCountry between Birmingham and Banbury.

7th August 2012, 19:51	#11
tony_mac Established Member Join Date: 25 Feb 2009 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,379	here is a previous thread (from last year) http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=692383

7th August 2012, 19:55	#12
dzug2 Member Join Date: 5 Feb 2011 Posts: 566	And ATW (New Street to International) also comes into the picture as an alternative operator

7th August 2012, 22:31	#13
Cherry_Picker Established Member Join Date: 18 Apr 2011 Location: 52.479°N 1.893°W Posts: 1,364	Just out of pure curiosity, would a route High Wycombe ticket be valid via Banbury > Oxford > Bicester Town > walk to Bicester North > Marylebone? I presume it would. It would have to be valid once there are direct trains from Oxford to London via High Wycombe, wouldnt it?

7th August 2012, 22:38	#15
Cherry_Picker Established Member Join Date: 18 Apr 2011 Location: 52.479°N 1.893°W Posts: 1,364	Nope, a Birmingham/Leamington/Banbury to London (route High Wycombe) ticket.