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Old 16th July 2013, 19:45   #1
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Hello,

I've been working on putting together a site depicting historical railways of the UK and Ireland. I've been working on the maps for many years, and have now decided to try and create a Google Maps based site to display them. The site is now up and running, and I'd really appreciate some feedback on firstly, whether it works, but more importantly if this is something that would be useful to the rail enthusiast community and also if there are any mistakes or omissions.

The site is at www.RailMapOnline.com. All feedback and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Matthew
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Old 16th July 2013, 20:55   #2
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Just two evenings ago I'd been trying to work out how the tracks into the now demolished Linocln St. Marks station and the old Lincoln avoiding line mapped onto today's street plan. (Don't ask why, I'm just interested in these things!). Anyway, lots of time comparing oblique aerial photos with google maps could all have been done in seconds using your site. Certainly for the area around Lincoln the lifted lines are pin-point accurate and you can see the scars in both the countryside and the townscape. Fascinating!

Thanks for sharing!

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Old 16th July 2013, 21:01   #3
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On a quick visit, very impressive. How many years' work is this?!

I didn't realise from your description that the aim was to show every line that ever existed - eg Croydon Tramlink doubling up with its SECR/LBSCR predecessors - and I like the Wikipedia link idea - on a random test it seems to work.

On a quick glance, you seem to list post-grouping lines under pre-grouping names (Wimbledon and Sutton, Torrington-Halwill), and I think there are some oddities in the New Cross area.

I also note that most stations in the London area (at least) are still to add.
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Old 16th July 2013, 21:09   #4
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I have to repeat 30907's comments - very impressive! It reminds me of the Cobb Atlas which I have a copy of. Checked my local area and it looks very accurate. I can imagine I'll get rather engrossed in it one evening in the autumn/winter!
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Old 16th July 2013, 22:06   #5
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Just taken a look at my local area and it looks fantastic.

Can confirm that this works on iPads.
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Old 16th July 2013, 22:35   #6
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It looks really great - must have taken ages to make!


One error I've noticed: the Wantage Tramway (off the Great Western main line between Didcot and Swindon) continued for another mile or so south of the terminus you've shown, to Mill Street in the centre of Wantage itself. I'm not entirely sure which route it took, but I presume it continued along what is now the A338 (Grove Road), then along another section of Grove Road, and then along the north side of the Market Place to Mill Street, with the terminus near Smith's Wharf (a building of the old Tramway Company remains there)

Everywhere else that I know that I've looked at looks faultless!
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Old 17th July 2013, 06:35   #7
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Hello all, and thank you for the kind comments. I'm glad it loaded in your browsers and didn't crash at first attempt! Hopefully it wasn't too slow in loading the maps - did anyone try the station search function?

Karl - no coincidence about Lincoln, it's my local area so it was the first part I created and checked.

30907 - you are quite right. May be a bit lazy, but I've used pre-grouping names throughout most of the map, with more recent lines in the same area given the same colour. It's something I'll need to fix in time as I want the information to be correct. If you spot any others then please let me know. And London area stations haven't been added yet. It's on the to-do list, but I think I might work on the Isle of Man first.

W-on-Sea, I shall have to do some more digging on the Wantage Tramway (good spot!) I'll try and find the route and add it to the next update.

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Old 17th July 2013, 07:17   #8
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Where's the key to the different colours of the lines? I did look, but couldn't find it.
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I have to say, having played with it, it looks to be a brilliant resource. Well done !
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Old 17th July 2013, 08:07   #10
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This is one of the best online railway geography resources I have seen and I will be using this on a regular basis.

I'm a cartographer too so I'm interested in some of the technical processes, such as source material, cartographic software, positional accuracy issues - maybe PM me?

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Hello,

I've been working on putting together a site depicting historical railways of the UK and Ireland. I've been working on the maps for many years, and have now decided to try and create a Google Maps based site to display them. The site is now up and running, and I'd really appreciate some feedback on firstly, whether it works, but more importantly if this is something that would be useful to the rail enthusiast community and also if there are any mistakes or omissions.

The site is at www.RailMapOnline.com. All feedback and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Matthew
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Old 17th July 2013, 13:57   #11
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Blimey! You've evn included the Duffield Bank Railway!

If I were to quibble I could say there were two tramways from Crich, not the one you've shown. The original one was Benjamin Outram's and ran down to the Cromford Canal at Bullbridge. The other was George Stephenson's and ran down to his limeworks at Ambergate. I remember the limeworks but not,I regret to say, the tranways. I think the trackbed of the latter is still visible and maybe Outram's as well. There is a description in the Wikipedia page about Crich.

Still to try and show all the tramways around Derby would possibly be a long job and maybe not worth the effort.

THe detail you have of the standard gauge lines is amazing, considering you are covering the country. What a job!
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Old 17th July 2013, 15:48   #12
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Is there a key to the different colours used?
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Key appears if you click on Company at the top

@MatthewB - rechecked New Cross area, the only missing link is from the LBSC towards Bricklayers' Arms.
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Old 17th July 2013, 16:53   #14
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Hi, and thanks again for the support and feedback.

I've been through and updated the Wantage tramway and found the missing Crich tramway. Both were on old OS maps, but I guess I just didn't spot them first time round. Thanks to Wyvern and W-on-Sea. By the way, does anyone know where the Duffield Bank Rly actually was, as this is my best guess?

I've also re-badged the North Devon & Cornwall Junction Light Rly (thanks 30907) and made a few other corrections. I'll add in the New Cross missing link next time.

To see the corrections you might have to reload the webpages to make sure it just doesn't load the cached version.

1e10 - the legend is on the Company tab. The list is incomplete, and it's not very good at actually giving you a relevant legend at the moment. If you click the Area button it should narrow down the list to only those lines that are in view, but it is inaccurate - it's close to the top of the things to fix list! You can also click on the lines to get a pop-up box with company details.

WSW - if you go onto the Info tab there is some information about the main sources of information and a little about the methods used to put it on the web. I think I might move this to a separate page so its a little more accessible.
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Another omission I've spotted: in East London, the part of the Central Line opened in tunnel in the 1940s between Leytonstone and Newbury Park
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Also, unless I've misinterpreted the map, it looks as though there is only one branch of the Northern line shown between Euston and Camden Town (the Charing Cross branch, which has a station at Mornington Crescent): the Bank branch takes quite a substantial loop to the west of there
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
And.... the original, now closed branch of the Piccadilly line between Holborn and Aldwych/Strand is missing, too...

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