kieron
Established Member
I've included three questions here, each only loosely related to the others. Please let me know if they should would be better off in separate threads.
I have a season ticket between Shotton and Chester. Could someone please tell me whether or not it would be valid on the line to Wrexham. My reading of the routeing guide suggests not, but the national rail enquiries site gives £4.30 journeys between the two via Wrexham (in fact, the first £4.30 Chester-Shotton route of the day uses the 0545 from Chester to Maesteg and the 0631 from Wrexham to Bidston).
Is this reasoning correct:
0. Shotton-Wrexham-Chester is longer than Shotton-Chester according to the Network Rail site, and has no scheduled services.
1. The routeing points of interest are Shotton and Chester.
4. The route on the ticket is ANY PERMITTED.
6. The only routeing code offered is CH.
7. Only the direct route is shown on map CH.
8. Only one easement mentions Shotton, and this appears irrelevant.
I notice that step 4 states that 'An "any permitted" ticket ... can be used on any route not listed in the Routeing Guide for which a lower priced route specific fare exists.' Does this mean that the fact that Chester-Wrexham-Shotton costs £4.30 means that this is a permitted route by itself?
If Shotton-Wrexham-Chester is permitted, is there anything I can show a dubious guard?
The other thought I have had is to request a changeover to a Shotton-Wrexham ticket (which is valid to Chester as it also uses the CH code). I bought the original ticket on-line. I notice that the web site advises a request to be made a few days before it is needed, and at a station related to the new route. Is this because the station staff will spend a few days checking something before exchanging the tickets at the same ticket office? If not, how do changeovers work from the customer's perspective?
I notice that Shotton-Wrexham is permitted by routes BC+CH and CH+BC. The only link to Shotton on BC is directly to Wrexham, however. Can these combinations be used, or are they a mistake?
I have a season ticket between Shotton and Chester. Could someone please tell me whether or not it would be valid on the line to Wrexham. My reading of the routeing guide suggests not, but the national rail enquiries site gives £4.30 journeys between the two via Wrexham (in fact, the first £4.30 Chester-Shotton route of the day uses the 0545 from Chester to Maesteg and the 0631 from Wrexham to Bidston).
Is this reasoning correct:
0. Shotton-Wrexham-Chester is longer than Shotton-Chester according to the Network Rail site, and has no scheduled services.
1. The routeing points of interest are Shotton and Chester.
4. The route on the ticket is ANY PERMITTED.
6. The only routeing code offered is CH.
7. Only the direct route is shown on map CH.
8. Only one easement mentions Shotton, and this appears irrelevant.
I notice that step 4 states that 'An "any permitted" ticket ... can be used on any route not listed in the Routeing Guide for which a lower priced route specific fare exists.' Does this mean that the fact that Chester-Wrexham-Shotton costs £4.30 means that this is a permitted route by itself?
If Shotton-Wrexham-Chester is permitted, is there anything I can show a dubious guard?
The other thought I have had is to request a changeover to a Shotton-Wrexham ticket (which is valid to Chester as it also uses the CH code). I bought the original ticket on-line. I notice that the web site advises a request to be made a few days before it is needed, and at a station related to the new route. Is this because the station staff will spend a few days checking something before exchanging the tickets at the same ticket office? If not, how do changeovers work from the customer's perspective?
I notice that Shotton-Wrexham is permitted by routes BC+CH and CH+BC. The only link to Shotton on BC is directly to Wrexham, however. Can these combinations be used, or are they a mistake?
