I'm planning quite a complex journey and could do with some clarification on how the off peak restrictions work.
I will be travelling from Wigan ([stn]WGN[/stn]) to Cambridge ([stn]CBG[/stn]) on an off peak return from CBG to WHG routed via Ely that I plan to excess the return half of. I want to travel via Henley so the plan is to get an early Virgin Trains service from WGN to somewhere near Birmingham making use of the railcard easement.
I plan on then travelling to Reading and purchasing a ticket from Twyford to Henley and back before continuing my journey through London to Cambridge.
My difficulty is which trains from Birmingham I can take.
The national rail 2C restriction says
"For journeys to/via Birmingham on CrossCountry, use restriction code 2V"
whereas the brfares one says
"If travel is NOT to/via the stations listed below or Peterborough, see restriction code 2V."
So the first question would be if 2C or 2V should be applied.
2C then reads
"DEPART: LONDON PADDINGTON Between 0810 & 1640 (inc.) and at or after 1801. (see note below)"
As the restriction for a service into Paddington.
As my journey from that point has to be into Paddington, does this restriction apply or does the fact that I will be switching from a XC train to a FGW train mean that the restriction only applies to the FGW service?
The two options below would be preferable, if anyone could let me know about the validity of these journeys that would be great.
05:45 Wigan North Western
06:46 Tamworth Train VIRGIN TRAINS 01h 01
07:09 Tamworth
09:11 Reading Station Train CROSSCOUNTRY 02h 02
09:33 Reading Station
09:39 Twyford Train FIRST GREAT WESTERN 00h 06
09:49 Twyford
10:00 Henley-On-Thames Train FIRST GREAT WESTERN 00h 11
06:27 Wigan North Western
07:55 Birmingham New Street Train VIRGIN TRAINS 01h 28
08:04 Birmingham New Street
09:39 Reading Station Train CROSSCOUNTRY 01h 35
09:48 Reading Station
09:54 Twyford Train FIRST GREAT WESTERN 00h 06
10:20 Twyford
10:32 Henley-On-Thames Train FIRST GREAT WESTERN 00h 12
If these aren't doable due to the via Birmingham section, and I use a Virgin service to Nuneaton and join the XC service at Coventry, or take a Virgin train to BHI and join the XC service there, is the important time for the restriction the time at which the train is scheduled to depart the station it is boarded at, or the time at which the train begins its journey from Birmingham?
I will be travelling from Wigan ([stn]WGN[/stn]) to Cambridge ([stn]CBG[/stn]) on an off peak return from CBG to WHG routed via Ely that I plan to excess the return half of. I want to travel via Henley so the plan is to get an early Virgin Trains service from WGN to somewhere near Birmingham making use of the railcard easement.
I plan on then travelling to Reading and purchasing a ticket from Twyford to Henley and back before continuing my journey through London to Cambridge.
My difficulty is which trains from Birmingham I can take.
The national rail 2C restriction says
"For journeys to/via Birmingham on CrossCountry, use restriction code 2V"
whereas the brfares one says
"If travel is NOT to/via the stations listed below or Peterborough, see restriction code 2V."
So the first question would be if 2C or 2V should be applied.
2C then reads
"DEPART: LONDON PADDINGTON Between 0810 & 1640 (inc.) and at or after 1801. (see note below)"
As the restriction for a service into Paddington.
As my journey from that point has to be into Paddington, does this restriction apply or does the fact that I will be switching from a XC train to a FGW train mean that the restriction only applies to the FGW service?
The two options below would be preferable, if anyone could let me know about the validity of these journeys that would be great.
05:45 Wigan North Western
06:46 Tamworth Train VIRGIN TRAINS 01h 01
07:09 Tamworth
09:11 Reading Station Train CROSSCOUNTRY 02h 02
09:33 Reading Station
09:39 Twyford Train FIRST GREAT WESTERN 00h 06
09:49 Twyford
10:00 Henley-On-Thames Train FIRST GREAT WESTERN 00h 11
06:27 Wigan North Western
07:55 Birmingham New Street Train VIRGIN TRAINS 01h 28
08:04 Birmingham New Street
09:39 Reading Station Train CROSSCOUNTRY 01h 35
09:48 Reading Station
09:54 Twyford Train FIRST GREAT WESTERN 00h 06
10:20 Twyford
10:32 Henley-On-Thames Train FIRST GREAT WESTERN 00h 12
If these aren't doable due to the via Birmingham section, and I use a Virgin service to Nuneaton and join the XC service at Coventry, or take a Virgin train to BHI and join the XC service there, is the important time for the restriction the time at which the train is scheduled to depart the station it is boarded at, or the time at which the train begins its journey from Birmingham?