I wouldn't recommend getting off anywhere between canada water and clapham junction this part of london is a right dump and extremely rough too the route is useful for connections though.
I had better stick to Haggerston and Dalston then when in London.I wouldn't recommend getting off anywhere between canada water and clapham junction this part of london is a right dump and extremely rough
Scared there's too many black people about are we? Its like plenty of deprived areas of London so Im not sure what your rather insensitive post is all about really?
I've lived near New Cross and I'd feel okay on the main roads during the day in Peckham. But I'd be wary of wondering onto a council estate in case I got the one of the bad ones. I'd avoid walking around after dark, I've known to many people be mugged around there to be honest.
I wouldn't recommend getting off anywhere between canada water and clapham junction this part of london is a right dump and extremely rough too the route is useful for connections though.
I wouldn't recommend getting off anywhere between canada water and clapham junction this part of london is a right dump and extremely rough too the route is useful for connections though.
I know many people who work in Canada Water and actively avoid the overground because of the dangers, perceived they may be. for example I've just asked a colleague who lives in Clapham and she said she will not be taking the new line which would actually make her journey faster. She will continue to go back to east Croydon and change there for a train to London Bridge.
Your colleague commutes from Clapham Junction to London Bridge, via East Croydon??? Is she deranged?
I forgot to add she does not end her journey at London Bridge but takes the tube to Canary Wharf. Even though this new line would make her journey quicker she thinks it would not make it safer.
Is the Outer SLL line which takes in such 'hotspots' as Streatham Hill, Crystal Palace and Honor Oak Park too dodgy for her to travel on from Clapham Jn?
I wouldn't recommend getting off anywhere between canada water and clapham junction this part of london is a right dump and extremely rough too the route is useful for connections though.
Scared there's too many black people about are we? Its like plenty of deprived areas of London so Im not sure what your rather insensitive post is all about really?
It's not the first time though. I thought the sentiments expressed seemed familiar - and sure enough...Just looked at Bailey's profile and it says "bailey65 has not made any friends yet" To be honest I'm not surprised!
I would imagine that inner city routes would be worse where you are more likely to get if you like gang type youths and general underclass.
I won't mention other certain groups for fear of being accused of something in this pc age especially on this forum.
It's not the first time though. I thought the sentiments expressed seemed familiar - and sure enough...
The inference in the line "I won't mention certain other groups" is fairly clear is it not? The preemptive fear of being accused of something by people being 'pc' is typical of someone that views anti-racism as some kind of liberal whim. It's not. Bailey, if you are bold enough to express half-views like those (which are based on xenophobic misrepresentation of the broadly tolerant and inclusive multicultural communities around London) then there are a great many other places around the new orbital where you might not be too well appreciated.
Give people a stereotype and sadly in the absence of alternative opportunities some people will live up to it. You're giving a certain group of people a stereotype and then you're upset when a tiny minority within that community feed your prejudices when they act in the way you expect them to!
So that's two borderline racist posts by Bailey. Three strikes and you're out?
I'd agree the "i wont mention certain groups" is a borderline racist comment, however the comments about certain "notorious" south london areas just seems a bit snobbish. If you have a problem with black people surely you wouldn't get off a train anywhere in the capital?
Visit the ELL thread on the East Dulwich forum where middle class users are snobbish about travelling on BUSES! This is despite a regular service on routes into Victoria from Peckham Rye, Queens Road Peckham and Denmark Hill as discussed in a previous thread on here not taking that much time.
One forum user posted that travelling on a bus between Queens Road Peckham and Victoria would take forever! We're talking minutes here, not hours. While I sympathised it'd mean this person would no longer be able to travel direct by rail, they do have two bus routes from the station and can change at Peckham Rye or Denmark Hill for the majority of the day for Southeastern services.
When there are towns in this country who'd love to have the regular subsidised transport system that London takes for granted, it makes me despair when commuters stick their nose at one form the integrated transport system London enjoys in comparison to the rest of the UK.
I frequent that forum and would actually sympathise with that sentiment. I don't think it's particularly snobbish. The 436 is a bit of a nightmare to travel on, average speed not more than jogging pace! The 36 is a bit better but that corridor is always extraordinarily busy, buses serving every single stop and the last time I travelled on the 436, somebody left a black bag full of fish in the luggage bay. The train takes 20 minutes whereas the bus can take more than twice as long.
I like and advocate the use of buses in London where it's more practical than messing around with connecting trains, but the 436 is an endurance test, especially if you have to use it for more than a short hop journey on a regular basis.
It's not the first time though. I thought the sentiments expressed seemed familiar - and sure enough...
The inference in the line "I won't mention certain other groups" is fairly clear is it not? The preemptive fear of being accused of something by people being 'pc' is typical of someone that views anti-racism as some kind of liberal whim. It's not. Bailey, if you are bold enough to express half-views like those (which are based on xenophobic misrepresentation of the broadly tolerant and inclusive multicultural communities around London) then there are a great many other places around the new orbital where you might not be too well appreciated.
Give people a stereotype and sadly in the absence of alternative opportunities some people will live up to it. You're giving a certain group of people a stereotype and then you're upset when a tiny minority within that community feed your prejudices when they act in the way you expect them to!
So that's two borderline racist posts by Bailey. Three strikes and you're out?
That was a stupid assumption you mentioned race not me i was talking about yobbish youths in these areas of all races who can't be bothered to do anything but cause trouble and get into gangs etc this brings the areas down no matter what infrastructure is put in for everybody.
The older generation of all races have more sense and get on with their lives but have to put up with the lawlessness of a large number of youths.
This makes the areas dangerous for residents and visitors which is what i was referring to.
I know and work with many people of all races so i suggest you get over yourself stop making libelous accusations,get off your high horse and get back to your copy of the guardian.
A survey has shown that less than half of those in Croydon are confident travellers.
In a survey conducted by rail operator Southern, it said in Croydon, 27% of people have admitted to getting on the wrong train, with 13% falling asleep on the train and missing their stop.
It also highlighted that common courtesy and old fashioned chivalry is not dead, with 47% of people giving up their seat for someone in need.
The survey also showed that Croydon residents like a break from the bustle of city life, with 31% saying they need to escape to the countryside or sea side every fortnight.
http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/ne...avellers_lack_confidence_according_to_survey/