New ticket design

[radamfi]

I picked up a ticket with the new National Rail logo this morning. The text across it now says "National Rail" rather than "Rail Settlement Plan"

How long have these tickets been out? Sorry if this is old news.

 

[thelongestroad]

There is a trial at the moment. Where did you collect your tickets from? Paddington?

 

[radamfi]

Victoria, from one of the red Gatwick Express machines at the taxi rank.

 

[transportphoto]

Does anyone know of any other Ticket Issuing Locations using the stock?

TP

 

[Harbon 1]

Does anyone know of any other Ticket Issuing Locations using the stock?

TP

My tiickets from Waterloo were of this design as well on Saturday (30th), but not from lincoln on Tuesday (2nd)

 

[Gemz91]

Noticed someone with one of these tickets tuva day ago. Think they'd travelled up from London, would have assumed they boarded at Kings Cross, but not too sure.

 

[maniacmartin]

Clapham Junction S&B TVMs now use this stock, with Santander adverts on the back

 

[transportphoto]

Any ticket offices using them at all?
TP

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Got some tickets from Bristol Temple Meads booking office a couple of Saturdays ago with the 'new' design too.

 

[Omega Point]

Been getting them from Reading for a few weeks now (1st was on the 20th), although I got a few sets with 1 ticket with the old design and one and the collection receipt with the new.

 

[trentside]

As far as I'm aware, they've not made it to EMT land yet.

I wasn't actually aware of the new design, but will be keeping an eye out for it.

 

[WillPS]

When I read about a ticket redesign, I was hoping for a little more than the BR symbol being adjusted.

 

[alastair]

Does anyone know of any other Ticket Issuing Locations using the stock?

TP

TVM at Haslemere using this new type today

 

[Searle]

Got the new ticket design at Cardiff Central on 21st March too

 

[swt_passenger]

Regarding post #2, what the heck is there to 'trial' about this?

 

[thelongestroad]

Probably more to do with the advertising.

 

[radamfi]

I can understand the new National Rail logo being on the ticket, but why did "Rail Settlement Plan" need replacing with "National Rail"?

 

[transportphoto]

I've been told, not sure if it's true, that on the rear of the ticket, is a box marked 'Endorsements' is this the case?

 

[alastair]

I've been told, not sure if it's true, that on the rear of the ticket, is a box marked 'Endorsements' is this the case?

Certainly not on the ones issued at Haslemere,just a big ad. for Forest Holidays at Micheldever!

 

[maniacmartin]

The rear of mine was like so:

 

[insidetrack77]

This is to do with ATOC's radical redesign of tickets I have official images which I can post here later.

 

[Harbon 1]

I've been told, not sure if it's true, that on the rear of the ticket, is a box marked 'Endorsements' is this the case?

yes, mine has, the top is clear for advertising or whatever, and below the magnetic strip is the 'Endorsements' box

 

[transportphoto]

yes, mine has, the top is clear for advertising or whatever, and below the magnetic strip is the 'Endorsements' box

Has anyone got any ideas as to it's use? I do wonder if they're likely to be used by staff making up rules and writing them on the tickets?!

 

[Searle]

Here's the back of mine. Quite fitting actually, very tempting to go to a few of them :P

 

[Phirstman]

Ooh quite like these, will definitely make interesting and colourful additions to my ticket hoarding pile if they come in!

 

[rebmcr]

This is to do with ATOC's radical redesign of tickets I have official images which I can post here later.

Tease!

 

[trentside]

Has anyone got any ideas as to it's use? I do wonder if they're likely to be used by staff making up rules and writing them on the tickets?!

I've not heard anything official, indeed - this is the first I've heard of the changed design. From my point of view, the endorsements box is where you'd write 'Restrictions Advised' for a ticket sold at a time when it is invalid or an endorsement to allow later travel on an Advance if a service is cancelled or delayed. This is useful - as at present space can be limited, though the current examples show the problem of advertising persists.

 

[transmanche]

I can understand the new National Rail logo being on the ticket, but why did "Rail Settlement Plan" need replacing with "National Rail"?

Possibly because "Rail Settlement Plan" means absolutely nothing to the average passenger?

 

[jon0844]

There's still what must be a reference to Rail Settlement Plan in the bottom left (RSP No...).

National Rail certainly makes more sense to Joe Public.

Of course what we need now is an update to the amount of detail that can be included on a standard design ticket - such as an extra line for restriction information, or smaller/proportional text. It would be a big step to allow for more than 16 characters but would solve so many issues!

Unlike others, I am not proposing a radical or all-new ticket design, and doubt there would be much point when I'd hope and expect smartcards to come in within the next 5-10 years and make paper tickets virtually obsolete. That probably means ATOC fully intends to do exactly the opposite.

(for the transition, you'd have systems printing the crnt shortnd txt on machines that can't print more text and longer text on those that can - until all equipment is updated).

 

[insidetrack77]

Here are a couple of pics as promised.