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The Kings Cross hologram-a new form of torture

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Wonder why she has not arrived at Manchester then? is it because its a station not run by Network Rail and the station operators at present don,t think its so important.

Network Rail manage Manchester Piccadilly...
 
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Can't say I've noticed anyone at KGX taking any actual notice of this cretinous thing other than saying how annoying it is or laughing at it.. Tourists especially seem to enjoy ignoring it and carry on taking their (sometimes rather large!) luggage up it!
 

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Could it be wired up to detect if someone does drop a suitcase on the escalator, then maybe she folds her arms and says "see, I told you what would happen if you did that. Why do you never listen to me?"
 

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Would be ironic if a huge case tumbled down the escalator and shattered the hologram into tiny pieces.
 

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I now know that I shouldn't take luggage up the escalator. I still think bikes are fine if you can handle it - it's certainly no more difficult than carrying one up stairs.

However I am still unsure about taking holograms on escalators, any thoughts?

Assuming they can be, I would then ask if there is any agreement on if they would class as an under 5 as far as fares are concerned (NOT for F&F).
 

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Network Rail manage Manchester Piccadilly...

I was wrong and thought that Manchester Pocadilly station was a Virgin run station and was to be come a Network Rail managed station.

Well the escalator woman should get herself to Euston and have a day or week a two out up North at Manchester for aa change.
 

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I was wrong and thought that Manchester Pocadilly station was a Virgin run station and was to be come a Network Rail managed station.

Well the escalator woman should get herself to Euston and have a day or week a two out up North at Manchester for aa change.

Unfortunately when we spot her in new places that doesn't usually mean she's no longer in the other places.
 

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The company making them needs to sell them quickly before someone sees sense and stops buying them. And we now have display panels that can take any shape, so the next generation won't need that huge projector underneath.

In other words, Network Rail has bought something with an incredibly limited lifespan and will become a relic in just a couple of years.
 
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The company making them needs to sell them quickly before someone sees sense and stops buying them. And we now have display panels that can take any shape, so the next generation won't need that huge projector underneath.

In other words, Network Rail has bought something with an incredibly limited lifespan and will become a relic in just a couple of years.

It already looks like a relic with that massive projector. Surely the massive projector is a trip hazard?
 

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The company making them needs to sell them quickly before someone sees sense and stops buying them. And we now have display panels that can take any shape, so the next generation won't need that huge projector underneath.

In other words, Network Rail has bought something with an incredibly limited lifespan and will become a relic in just a couple of years.

Well they could always dispose of the knackered hologram units in some abandoned tunnel somewhere.
 

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I've always wondered why they weren't based of off Arnold Rimmer. They're both Holograms, they're both irritating to people around them, and that little wave she does at the bottom of the escalator could easily have been Rimmer's famous - and ridiculed - salute...
 

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I was at Manchester Airport this morning and rather than using the lift the passengers with their heavy suitcases played a game of Tetris to navigate their luggage past the bollards put in place by the escalator! :lol:
 

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A couple of points

1 Does she have a big H on her forehead?
2 Rimmer was the hologram, Holly was the computer - get it right.

:D:D:D
 

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A couple of points

1 Does she have a big H on her forehead?
2 Rimmer was the hologram, Holly was the computer - get it right.

:D:D:D

No-one mentioned Holly or anything to do with him/her until you did just then.
 

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No-one mentioned Holly or anything to do with him/her until you did just then.

You obviously haven't read the posts as thoroughly as I have - see posts #26 and #27

Strictly speaking it is not a hologram. It is a projected image onto a plastic shape cut to meet the profile of the actress, affectionately known as Holly.
 
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You obviously haven't read the posts as thoroughly as I have - see posts #26 and #27

Strictly speaking it is not a hologram. It is a projected image onto a plastic shape cut to meet the profile of the actress, affectionately known as Holly.

I hadn't realised you were going that far back! I did read them but that was last year.

That's where quotng helps :p
 

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It most certainly isn't a hologram at King's Cross. The projection idea was showcased at a trade show I went to a few years back, with the vision of these things appearing all over the place. I can't remember if it was Casio or Epson that made them, but I suspect the former.

Besides the one at King's Cross, I've not seen them used anywhere else. Once the novelty wears off, they're quite tacky and actually not that good.

The only 'good' system will come when the shape cut for the face/head is actually the screen. That's now possible, or will be very soon, and means you could have shapes mounted directly on to a wall - not on a bulky unit that the visually impaired could bump into!
 

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They do have them in some hospitals, in a "welcome" role. Impressively, they manage to be less useful and more annoying than the KX ones.
 

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Nobody wants to be welcomed by a machine that cares even less than a member of staff. It's incredibly patronising.

Plus I doubt they're cheap.

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Do the Leeds ones just talk about lifts

I've often thought that the escalators have often needed 'stand on the right' announcements.
 

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Do the Leeds ones just talk about lifts

I've often thought that the escalators have often needed 'stand on the right' announcements.

I do often notice (including last night) that the many "stand on the right" signs at Leeds are completely ignored with people often blocking the way through with their luggage and being completely oblivious of anyone trying to make a tight connection.
 

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http://blog.tensator.com/uk/post/20...sistant-leaves-Network-Rail-wanting-more.aspx

More stations where you'll be needing to wear earphones and music cranked up to 11.

I use King's Cross a lot, and will say that a LOT of people do use the lifts (which shows that there aren't enough, or how devastating it is when one of them fails - especially where there's no alternative) . But they're people with buggies for the most part, as well as wheelchairs (there are a lot of wheelchair users at the station, which is good to see if it means people are more comfortable with using public transport).

I can't recall that many people just using a lift (sorry, elevator) with only bags. The 260% increase isn't that impressive if there were hardly any in the first place - and I'd love to know how they measured this. They sure weren't watching the lifts 24/7, as far as I can tell, so I guess they picked a small time period before and after. Or did they look through weeks of CCTV footage?

But fair play to the company. I bet they're not cheap, so they must have seen Network Rail coming.
 

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GatwickDepress:1841181 said:
I've always wondered why they weren't based of off Arnold Rimmer. They're both Holograms, they're both irritating to people around them, and that little wave she does at the bottom of the escalator could easily have been Rimmer's famous - and ridiculed - salute...

An interesting point - surely these things bloody awful things would be less irksome if there was an injection; using popular characters like Rimmer would be rather engaging, up to a point!
 

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An interesting point - surely these things bloody awful things would be less irksome if there was an injection; using popular characters like Rimmer would be rather engaging, up to a point!

In the short term. I suspect after a few months they'd be just as annoying.
 
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