adrock1976
Established Member
As detailed below, I have been on a huge train of thought (pardon the pun) regarding the future of Crosscountry services, both the traditional Intercity and the regional services in the context of the East - West project being completed to Bedford Midland, and various electrification projects proposed.
I have not really given much consideration in regards to the TP network on the west to east axis via Huddersfield, as i was unsure whether they could form some sort of XC Regional services or whether the Huddersfield routes are better left as they are at present and in a network of their own.
Below are my thoughts.
Traditional XC Intercity
Manchester to Reading via Birmingham core
Every 30 minutes calling at Stockport, Macclesfield, Stoke-on-Trent, Stafford, Wolverhampton, Birmingham New Street, then 1 every 60 minutes calling at Birmingham International, Coventry, Leamington Spa, Banbury, Oxford, Didcot Parkway, Reading West, Basingstoke, Winchester, Southampton Airport Parkway, Southampton Central, Brockenhurst, and Bournemouth, with one every 2 hours extended to Poole, Wareham, Dorchester South, and Weymouth on summer Saturdays and Sundays.
The other service every 60 minutes calling at Solihull, Leamington Spa, Banbury, Oxford, Reading, with the rear portion continuing to Basingstoke, Winchester, Southampton Airport Parkway, and Southampton Central, with the front portion continuing to Wokingham, Farnborough North, Guildford, Dorking Deepdene, and Redhill.
Combined together, this gives an improved frequency of every 30 minutes between Manchester and Southampton Central via Birmingham, Oxford, and Basingstoke, and combined with the local Reading Basingstoke shuttle service, this provides a train every 15 minutes between Reading and Basingstoke.
The Southampton Central/Redhill journeys extended northwards from Manchester calling at Oxford Road, Bolton, Preston, Lancaster, Oxenholme: The Lake District, Penrith, Carlisle Citadel, Lockerbie, then one every 2 hours calling at Motherwell and Glasgow Central, with the other one every 2 hours calling at Haymarket and Edinburgh Waverley. This would take over the present TP route from Manchester Piccadilly to Glasgow and Edinburgh, and reinstate direct links from north of Bolton to Oxford/Reading via Birmingham.
Edinburgh Waverley/Newcastle Central to Bristol TM/Exeter SD/Plymouth/Penzance via Birmingham core
Edinburgh Waverley to Plymouth or Penzance every 60 minutes calling at Berwick-upon-Tweed, alternating between Dunbar and Alnmouth for Alnwick either side, Newcastle Central, Durham, York, Leeds City, Wakefield Kirkgate, Meadowhall Interchange, Sheffield Midland, Chesterfield, Derby, Burton-upon-Trent, Tamworth, Birmingham New Street, Cheltenham Spa, Bristol Parkway, Bristol TM, Taunton, Tiverton Parkway, Exeter SD, Newton Abbott, Totnes, Plymouth, with one every 2 hours continuing to Penzance.
Newcastle Central to Exeter SD every 60 minutes calling at Darlington, York, then the calling pattern as per the Edinburgh Waverley service to Exeter SD. One train every 2 hours to continue to Paignton on summer Saturdays and Sundays.
Combined, this provides a train every 30 minutes between Newcastle Central and Exeter SD via Leeds City and Birmingham, and with some slight alteration to the Sheffield London St Pancras services to evenly space the frequency, this would combine to give a train every 15 minutes between Sheffield and Derby. Furthermore, with the Nottingham Cardiff Central via Birmingham services, this would combine to give a train every 15 minutes between Derby and Cheltenham Spa via Birmingham.
Intercity via Oxford and Bletchley (East West)
New direct service from Swansea to York every 60 minutes calling at Neath, Port Talbot Parkway, Bridgend, Cardiff Central, Newport, alternating every 2 hours between Pilning and Patchway (perhaps when residential development at Pilning happens?), Bristol Parkway, Swindon, Oxford (perhaps Wooton Bassett and other local stations to reopen?), Bicester Town/London Road/Village (or whatever is the fancy name that happens to be in fashion at the time), Claydon or Verney Junction (for interchange with Great Central/Metropolitan Railway via Aylesbury), Bletchley, Bedford Midland, London Road, Loughborough, maybe EM Parkway, Toton (for HS2), Sheffield, Meadowhall Interchange (for HS2), Doncaster, and York.
New direct service from Taunton or Exeter SD to Manchester every 60 minutes calling at Bristol TM, Bristol Parkway, Swindon, Oxford (perhaps Wooton Bassett and other local stations to reopen?), Bicester Town/London Road/Village (or whatever is the fancy name that happens to be in fashion at the time), Claydon or Verney Junction (for interchange with Great Central/Metropolitan Railway via Aylesbury), Bletchley, then a choice of 2 possible routes with one being most likely, and the other as it presently stands most unlikely (and part of my fantasy).
1)From Bletchley via MK Central, Rugby, Nuneaton, alternating every 2 hours between Tamworth and Lichfield TV, Stoke-on-Trent, then either Macclesfield and Stockport, or Crewe, Wilmslow, and Styal, then Manchester Piccadilly (most likely)
2)From Bletchley via Bedford Midland, London Road, Loughborough, maybe EM Parkway, Derby, Matlock, Bakewell, Millers Dale or Peak Forest, New Mills Central, and Manchester Piccadilly (unlikely, and the obvious problem is the missing track between Matlock and Peak Forest/Millers Dale)
Combined together, this would mean a service every 30 minutes between Bristol Parkway and Bletchley. Alternatively to start off with, these could run as portions every 60 minutes between Bristol Parkway and Bletchley, with the portions attaching and detaching at these locations. When sufficient passenger loadings have increased and paths re-tweaked, the 30 minute frequency could be implemented.
XC Regional services (including the carved up former RR Central/Central Trains services)
Liverpool to Norwich Thorpe via Warrington Central, Manchester and Nottingham
Retain the present frequency of every 60 minutes and calling patterns, but with the Sheffield and Ely calls omitted. The Sheffield call could be replaced with an additional new Liverpool Manchester Sheffield service, with the Leeds Nottingham via Wakefield Kirkgate services being increased to every 30 minutes along the entire route. This would provide a frequency of every 30 minutes between Liverpool and Dore via Warrington Central and Manchester. Also, the Ely call could be replaced with a service from Birmingham, and doubling the frequency between Norwich Thorpe and Cambridge.
Nottingham to Cardiff Central via Birmingham
Increase the frequency to run every 30 minutes throughout the whole route, calling at maybe Toton? Beeston, Long Eaton, Derby, Burton-upon-Trent, Tamworth, alternating between Willington and Wilnecote, Water Orton, Birmingham NS, Bromsgrove (maybe dropped after local Cross City 20 minute frequency introduced?), Cheltenham Spa, Gloucester, Lydney, Chepstow, Caldicot, Newport, and Cardiff Central.
Combined with the NE SW Intercity services, this would provide a train every 15 minutes between Derby and Cheltenham via Birmingham NS.
Birmingham to Stansted Airport/Anglia
The present Birmingham NS Stansted Airport service to be combined with the present Birmingham Chester via Wrexham service, with the calling patterns remaining as present, with a frequency of every 60 minutes. The ATW Cardiff Holyhead service can be diverted to run via Nantwich and Crewe, and a Liverpool Halton Curve Wrexham Cardiff service could run, providing a frequency of every 30 minutes between Chester and Shrewsbury via Wrexham.
The present Aberystwyth Birmingham service to be extended to Anglia Region calling at Coleshill Parkway, Nuneaton, Leicester London Road, Oakham, Stamford, Peterborough, March, Ely, Bury St Edmunds, Stowmarket, and Ipswich. This would provide a combined frequency of every 30 minutes between Shrewsbury and Peterborough/Ely via Birmingham. Additionally, perhaps an early morning and late evening return journey could be extended from Ipswich to Harwich Parkeston Quay to connect with the Hook van Holland ferries.
Obviously, as it presently stands, this would require constructive discussions with the Welsh Government to make this work.
On a footnote, the local stations Nuneaton London Road will be expanded upon below.
Birmingham and West Midlands to Lincolnshire
The present Hereford Birmingham NS via Bromsgrove service to be merged with the present Birmingham NS Leicester London Road short workings that calls all stations beyond Nuneaton. Additionally, merge these two services with the present local Leicester LR Nottingham Newark Castle services. Also double the frequency to every 30 minutes between Hereford and Newark Castle via Birmingham, London Road, and Nottingham Midland.
The additional service introduced to continue beyond Newark Castle to Lincoln Central every 60 minutes, calling at Collingham, Swinderby, Hykeham, and Lincoln Central. This to be extended every 2 hours to Cleethorpes calling at Market Rasen, Barnetby, Grimsby Town, and Cleethorpes. This would give a standard 2 hourly service between Lincoln Central and Cleethorpes, as the present timetable appears to be random services that do not follow any particular pattern. Furthermore, with the Anglia services, this would provide a train every 15 minutes between Birmingham and Leicester LR, every 15 minutes combined with the London St Pancras Nottingham services between Leicester LR and Nottingham Midland, and every 30 minutes between Leicester LR and Newark Castle, with hourly and 2-hourly extensions to Lincoln Central and Cleethorpes, meaning that there would only be 1 solitary change at Nuneaton from Coventry.
North West and North East to East Midlands
The present Crewe Derby shuttle to be supplemented by a new Liverpool Derby via Warrington BQ and Stoke-on-Trent service. This would call at Edge Hill, Wavertree Tech Park, Huyton, St Helens Junction, Earlestown, Warrington BQ, Hartford, Crewe, then as the Crewe Derby shuttles.
This would double the frequency between Liverpool and Warrington BQ as it has poor links, with the last service being around 18:00. Also, this would double the frequency between Crewe and Derby, and would provide direct links between Liverpool and Stoke-on-Trent, and between Warrington and Hartford/Greenbank (not possible at present to travel directly between these 2 stations).
The present Leeds Sheffield and Nottingham via Wakefield Kirkgate limited stop service to run every 30 minutes along the entire route. Perhaps 1 train every hour could be extended to Grantham calling at Netherfield, Radcliffe, Bingham, Aslockton, Bottesford, and Grantham, so as to enable the Nottingham Skegness services to be speeded up slightly.
Furthermore, 3 daily Leeds Nottingham service could be extended to start back from Glasgow Central, calling at Motherwell, Carstairs, Carlisle Citadel, Appleby-in-Westmoreland, Settle, Hellifield, Skipton, Leeds City, then to Nottingham as per standard calling points. There would be one early morning, one lunchtime/mid afternoon, and one evening service in both directions to and from Glasgow Central.
Comments (and friendly and constructive criticism) are welcome
In peace
Adam
I have not really given much consideration in regards to the TP network on the west to east axis via Huddersfield, as i was unsure whether they could form some sort of XC Regional services or whether the Huddersfield routes are better left as they are at present and in a network of their own.
Below are my thoughts.
Traditional XC Intercity
Manchester to Reading via Birmingham core
Every 30 minutes calling at Stockport, Macclesfield, Stoke-on-Trent, Stafford, Wolverhampton, Birmingham New Street, then 1 every 60 minutes calling at Birmingham International, Coventry, Leamington Spa, Banbury, Oxford, Didcot Parkway, Reading West, Basingstoke, Winchester, Southampton Airport Parkway, Southampton Central, Brockenhurst, and Bournemouth, with one every 2 hours extended to Poole, Wareham, Dorchester South, and Weymouth on summer Saturdays and Sundays.
The other service every 60 minutes calling at Solihull, Leamington Spa, Banbury, Oxford, Reading, with the rear portion continuing to Basingstoke, Winchester, Southampton Airport Parkway, and Southampton Central, with the front portion continuing to Wokingham, Farnborough North, Guildford, Dorking Deepdene, and Redhill.
Combined together, this gives an improved frequency of every 30 minutes between Manchester and Southampton Central via Birmingham, Oxford, and Basingstoke, and combined with the local Reading Basingstoke shuttle service, this provides a train every 15 minutes between Reading and Basingstoke.
The Southampton Central/Redhill journeys extended northwards from Manchester calling at Oxford Road, Bolton, Preston, Lancaster, Oxenholme: The Lake District, Penrith, Carlisle Citadel, Lockerbie, then one every 2 hours calling at Motherwell and Glasgow Central, with the other one every 2 hours calling at Haymarket and Edinburgh Waverley. This would take over the present TP route from Manchester Piccadilly to Glasgow and Edinburgh, and reinstate direct links from north of Bolton to Oxford/Reading via Birmingham.
Edinburgh Waverley/Newcastle Central to Bristol TM/Exeter SD/Plymouth/Penzance via Birmingham core
Edinburgh Waverley to Plymouth or Penzance every 60 minutes calling at Berwick-upon-Tweed, alternating between Dunbar and Alnmouth for Alnwick either side, Newcastle Central, Durham, York, Leeds City, Wakefield Kirkgate, Meadowhall Interchange, Sheffield Midland, Chesterfield, Derby, Burton-upon-Trent, Tamworth, Birmingham New Street, Cheltenham Spa, Bristol Parkway, Bristol TM, Taunton, Tiverton Parkway, Exeter SD, Newton Abbott, Totnes, Plymouth, with one every 2 hours continuing to Penzance.
Newcastle Central to Exeter SD every 60 minutes calling at Darlington, York, then the calling pattern as per the Edinburgh Waverley service to Exeter SD. One train every 2 hours to continue to Paignton on summer Saturdays and Sundays.
Combined, this provides a train every 30 minutes between Newcastle Central and Exeter SD via Leeds City and Birmingham, and with some slight alteration to the Sheffield London St Pancras services to evenly space the frequency, this would combine to give a train every 15 minutes between Sheffield and Derby. Furthermore, with the Nottingham Cardiff Central via Birmingham services, this would combine to give a train every 15 minutes between Derby and Cheltenham Spa via Birmingham.
Intercity via Oxford and Bletchley (East West)
New direct service from Swansea to York every 60 minutes calling at Neath, Port Talbot Parkway, Bridgend, Cardiff Central, Newport, alternating every 2 hours between Pilning and Patchway (perhaps when residential development at Pilning happens?), Bristol Parkway, Swindon, Oxford (perhaps Wooton Bassett and other local stations to reopen?), Bicester Town/London Road/Village (or whatever is the fancy name that happens to be in fashion at the time), Claydon or Verney Junction (for interchange with Great Central/Metropolitan Railway via Aylesbury), Bletchley, Bedford Midland, London Road, Loughborough, maybe EM Parkway, Toton (for HS2), Sheffield, Meadowhall Interchange (for HS2), Doncaster, and York.
New direct service from Taunton or Exeter SD to Manchester every 60 minutes calling at Bristol TM, Bristol Parkway, Swindon, Oxford (perhaps Wooton Bassett and other local stations to reopen?), Bicester Town/London Road/Village (or whatever is the fancy name that happens to be in fashion at the time), Claydon or Verney Junction (for interchange with Great Central/Metropolitan Railway via Aylesbury), Bletchley, then a choice of 2 possible routes with one being most likely, and the other as it presently stands most unlikely (and part of my fantasy).
1)From Bletchley via MK Central, Rugby, Nuneaton, alternating every 2 hours between Tamworth and Lichfield TV, Stoke-on-Trent, then either Macclesfield and Stockport, or Crewe, Wilmslow, and Styal, then Manchester Piccadilly (most likely)
2)From Bletchley via Bedford Midland, London Road, Loughborough, maybe EM Parkway, Derby, Matlock, Bakewell, Millers Dale or Peak Forest, New Mills Central, and Manchester Piccadilly (unlikely, and the obvious problem is the missing track between Matlock and Peak Forest/Millers Dale)
Combined together, this would mean a service every 30 minutes between Bristol Parkway and Bletchley. Alternatively to start off with, these could run as portions every 60 minutes between Bristol Parkway and Bletchley, with the portions attaching and detaching at these locations. When sufficient passenger loadings have increased and paths re-tweaked, the 30 minute frequency could be implemented.
XC Regional services (including the carved up former RR Central/Central Trains services)
Liverpool to Norwich Thorpe via Warrington Central, Manchester and Nottingham
Retain the present frequency of every 60 minutes and calling patterns, but with the Sheffield and Ely calls omitted. The Sheffield call could be replaced with an additional new Liverpool Manchester Sheffield service, with the Leeds Nottingham via Wakefield Kirkgate services being increased to every 30 minutes along the entire route. This would provide a frequency of every 30 minutes between Liverpool and Dore via Warrington Central and Manchester. Also, the Ely call could be replaced with a service from Birmingham, and doubling the frequency between Norwich Thorpe and Cambridge.
Nottingham to Cardiff Central via Birmingham
Increase the frequency to run every 30 minutes throughout the whole route, calling at maybe Toton? Beeston, Long Eaton, Derby, Burton-upon-Trent, Tamworth, alternating between Willington and Wilnecote, Water Orton, Birmingham NS, Bromsgrove (maybe dropped after local Cross City 20 minute frequency introduced?), Cheltenham Spa, Gloucester, Lydney, Chepstow, Caldicot, Newport, and Cardiff Central.
Combined with the NE SW Intercity services, this would provide a train every 15 minutes between Derby and Cheltenham via Birmingham NS.
Birmingham to Stansted Airport/Anglia
The present Birmingham NS Stansted Airport service to be combined with the present Birmingham Chester via Wrexham service, with the calling patterns remaining as present, with a frequency of every 60 minutes. The ATW Cardiff Holyhead service can be diverted to run via Nantwich and Crewe, and a Liverpool Halton Curve Wrexham Cardiff service could run, providing a frequency of every 30 minutes between Chester and Shrewsbury via Wrexham.
The present Aberystwyth Birmingham service to be extended to Anglia Region calling at Coleshill Parkway, Nuneaton, Leicester London Road, Oakham, Stamford, Peterborough, March, Ely, Bury St Edmunds, Stowmarket, and Ipswich. This would provide a combined frequency of every 30 minutes between Shrewsbury and Peterborough/Ely via Birmingham. Additionally, perhaps an early morning and late evening return journey could be extended from Ipswich to Harwich Parkeston Quay to connect with the Hook van Holland ferries.
Obviously, as it presently stands, this would require constructive discussions with the Welsh Government to make this work.
On a footnote, the local stations Nuneaton London Road will be expanded upon below.
Birmingham and West Midlands to Lincolnshire
The present Hereford Birmingham NS via Bromsgrove service to be merged with the present Birmingham NS Leicester London Road short workings that calls all stations beyond Nuneaton. Additionally, merge these two services with the present local Leicester LR Nottingham Newark Castle services. Also double the frequency to every 30 minutes between Hereford and Newark Castle via Birmingham, London Road, and Nottingham Midland.
The additional service introduced to continue beyond Newark Castle to Lincoln Central every 60 minutes, calling at Collingham, Swinderby, Hykeham, and Lincoln Central. This to be extended every 2 hours to Cleethorpes calling at Market Rasen, Barnetby, Grimsby Town, and Cleethorpes. This would give a standard 2 hourly service between Lincoln Central and Cleethorpes, as the present timetable appears to be random services that do not follow any particular pattern. Furthermore, with the Anglia services, this would provide a train every 15 minutes between Birmingham and Leicester LR, every 15 minutes combined with the London St Pancras Nottingham services between Leicester LR and Nottingham Midland, and every 30 minutes between Leicester LR and Newark Castle, with hourly and 2-hourly extensions to Lincoln Central and Cleethorpes, meaning that there would only be 1 solitary change at Nuneaton from Coventry.
North West and North East to East Midlands
The present Crewe Derby shuttle to be supplemented by a new Liverpool Derby via Warrington BQ and Stoke-on-Trent service. This would call at Edge Hill, Wavertree Tech Park, Huyton, St Helens Junction, Earlestown, Warrington BQ, Hartford, Crewe, then as the Crewe Derby shuttles.
This would double the frequency between Liverpool and Warrington BQ as it has poor links, with the last service being around 18:00. Also, this would double the frequency between Crewe and Derby, and would provide direct links between Liverpool and Stoke-on-Trent, and between Warrington and Hartford/Greenbank (not possible at present to travel directly between these 2 stations).
The present Leeds Sheffield and Nottingham via Wakefield Kirkgate limited stop service to run every 30 minutes along the entire route. Perhaps 1 train every hour could be extended to Grantham calling at Netherfield, Radcliffe, Bingham, Aslockton, Bottesford, and Grantham, so as to enable the Nottingham Skegness services to be speeded up slightly.
Furthermore, 3 daily Leeds Nottingham service could be extended to start back from Glasgow Central, calling at Motherwell, Carstairs, Carlisle Citadel, Appleby-in-Westmoreland, Settle, Hellifield, Skipton, Leeds City, then to Nottingham as per standard calling points. There would be one early morning, one lunchtime/mid afternoon, and one evening service in both directions to and from Glasgow Central.
Comments (and friendly and constructive criticism) are welcome
In peace
Adam