Class 387

Class377/5 · 18 Apr 2015

ScotGG said:
That's the last 387/1 isn't it? So is it now straight onto the Gatwick 387/2s or is there a bit of a gap in construction?

101/102 still at Derby so not finished. They don't stay on the first 387/2 until next month so there will be a gap with first /2 going on the network (commissioning) in October-ish.

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sd0733 · 20 Apr 2015

387103 was the rear unit (with 118) on the 06:04 Brighton to Bedford this morning. Sure i saw somewhere that one hadnt entered service so may be one of its first trips.

Class377/5 · 20 Apr 2015

sd0733 said:
387103 was the rear unit (with 118) on the 06:04 Brighton to Bedford this morning. Sure i saw somewhere that one hadnt entered service so may be one of its first trips.

Its first trip in passenger service was this working. Leaves the following five units yet to be in service,

101 - at Derby
102 - at Derby
104 - commissioning at Bletchley
128 - at Lovers Walk, should be in service this week
129 - commissioning at Bletchley

chickenwings12 · 25 Apr 2015

can someone please explain why the doors on the 387 stock are green? All the hype about new trains, and govia basically give us more southern trains.

I just miss when thameslink had its own identity. They could've at least made an effort...

387star · 25 Apr 2015

chickenwings12 said:
can someone please explain why the doors on the 387 stock are green? All the hype about new trains, and govia basically give us more southern trains.

I just miss when thameslink had its own identity. They could've at least made an effort...

Given the electrostars are a stop gap till the 700s not at all important

D365 · 25 Apr 2015

Clearly it's Great Western green

- Yes I know, the rolling stock announcement was made well after the Class 387 order.

MCR247 · 25 Apr 2015

chickenwings12 said:
can someone please explain why the doors on the 387 stock are green? All the hype about new trains, and govia basically give us more southern trains.

I just miss when thameslink had its own identity. They could've at least made an effort...

You've got new trains and you're complaining about the colour of the doors? :lol:

#firstworldproblems ?

southern442 · 25 Apr 2015

DAB_Move said:
Clearly it's Great Western green

- Yes I know, the rolling stock announcement was made well after the Class 387 order.

When I try to picture an electrostar in the new GWR livery, I think of the Hull Trains class 170's :lol:

chickenwings12 · 25 Apr 2015

ml said:
Given the electrostars are a stop gap till the 700s not at all important

not true for the passengers on GN, considering I use it a lot and we're going to be lumbered with them after

Jonny · 25 Apr 2015

chickenwings12 said:
not true for the passengers on GN, considering I use it a lot and we're going to be lumbered with them after

What, even though they are newer than the stock that they will replace?

swt_passenger · 25 Apr 2015

chickenwings12 said:
not true for the passengers on GN, considering I use it a lot and we're going to be lumbered with them after

If you're still referring to 387s though, (the subject of your criticism of the door colour) they will not appear on the GN.

Fincra5 · 25 Apr 2015

chickenwings12 said:
not true for the passengers on GN, considering I use it a lot and we're going to be lumbered with them after

You'll get 377/5s which are painted in ex-FCC colours. No idea if they'll change, it suits them IMO.

MCR247 · 25 Apr 2015

Fincra5 said:
You'll get 377/5s which are painted in ex-FCC colours. No idea if they'll change, it suits them IMO.

Especially the black front

Oh wait thats not paint...

Fincra5 · 25 Apr 2015

MCR247 said:
Especially the black front Oh wait thats not paint...

387's will have that soon

JB25 · 26 Apr 2015

Black front?:?

Techniquest · 26 Apr 2015

I'm confused by that too...

asylumxl · 26 Apr 2015

Techniquest said:
I'm confused by that too...

Dirt.

Techniquest · 26 Apr 2015

asylumxl:2150015 said:
Techniquest said:

I'm confused by that too...

Click to expand...

Dirt.

Ahhhh, I must have simply been lucky or not seen it on the 377/5s I saw plenty of last month!

Class377/5 · 26 Apr 2015

Techniquest said:
Ahhhh, I must have simply been lucky or not seen it on the 377/5s I saw plenty of last month!

The 377/5 fleet washing is done by Thameslink and the 387 by Southern. There is a difference however the white of the 387s shows the dirty up on the corners where as the purple or green on the corner of the 377s hide it.

jon0844 · 26 Apr 2015

Yup, even the LO trains show the dirt badly at the corners/indents that are a trademark of the Electrostar family.

By comparison, a white AGA 317 can manage to look very clean all over. Obviously when cleaned, although I find them to be clean most of the time (on West Anglia).

Peter Sarf · 26 Apr 2015

asylumxl said:
Dirt.

Dirt !. Thats not just any old dirt. That is splatted flies surely ?. Er from last summer :oops:

.

Seriously though - I believe the doors tend to be a contrasting colour to help partially sighted people find them. As they work on Southern (well TSGN I suppose) they favoured green doors. Its better than the washed out looking white 319s.

But, in the grand scheme of things, its nice to only have such a minor thing as door colours to worry about. So be thankful. It would take my mind of finding a seat or even managing to get on the crowded train

.

physics34 · 26 Apr 2015

Carbon and dirt from the pantographs and wires

RichJF · 28 Apr 2015

117 was making an horrendous hoover-like noise pulling into City Thameslink on the 17:20 Bedford-TBD last night! 118 was on the front.

Some grinding & whining also occurred sporadically all the way from CTK to Redhill.
Trying to pinpoint what it was. I think it might have been an aircon issue but not sure.

Is this normal overbearing aircon or something more ominous?

Class377/5 · 28 Apr 2015

RichJF said:
117 was making an horrendous hoover-like noise pulling into City Thameslink on the 17:20 Bedford-TBD last night! 118 was on the front.

Some grinding & whining also occurred sporadically all the way from CTK to Redhill.
Trying to pinpoint what it was. I think it might have been an aircon issue but not sure.

Is this normal overbearing aircon or something more ominous?

Thats interesting. Any idea what coach you were on?

user15681 · 28 Apr 2015

RichJF said:
117 was making an horrendous hoover-like noise pulling into City Thameslink on the 17:20 Bedford-TBD last night! 118 was on the front.

Some grinding & whining also occurred sporadically all the way from CTK to Redhill.
Trying to pinpoint what it was. I think it might have been an aircon issue but not sure.

Is this normal overbearing aircon or something more ominous?

Class377/5 said:
Thats interesting. Any idea what coach you were on?

Reading that reminded me of a similar experience I had on a 387, with a sort of hoover-like noise and a bit of whining. Checking back when I posted it here, it was also 387117.

That was way back in January though, so if there's a fault I'd like to think it's not the same one!

westcoaster · 28 Apr 2015

Temple said:
Reading that reminded me of a similar experience I had on a 387, with a sort of hoover-like noise and a bit of whining. Checking back when I posted it here, it was also 387117.

That was way back in January though, so if there's a fault I'd like to think it's not the same one!

Could it be the compressor, the ones on 387's are like the old type alla 319's, and you hear them running including starting and stopping.

hassaanhc · 28 Apr 2015

westcoaster said:
Could it be the compressor, the ones on 387's are like the old type alla 319's, and you hear them running including starting and stopping.

I thought it might be the compressor too.

From 1.05 in this video you can hear the compressor on the 387s (as well as 377/6 & 377/7) https://youtu.be/yNJJIBgN_2I

Much more noticeable than the older ones, which can be heard starting up from 3.33 in this video https://youtu.be/uYBGVvF5pO4

RichJF · 29 Apr 2015

Class377/5 said:
Thats interesting. Any idea what coach you were on?

I was on coach 7 of 8...so the third coach of 117. The non-toilet intermediate coach.

hassaanhc said:
I thought it might be the compressor too.
Much more noticeable than the older ones, which can be heard starting up from 3.33 in this video https://youtu.be/uYBGVvF5pO4

It was similar to the 377 in your last video, however it was on full blast constantly but also grinding noises as well.

Dare I say it; almost reminiscent of the powercar noise in Eurostar coach 1/18! It was very audible going through Crystal Palace tunnel.

southern442 · 2 May 2015

RichJF said:
I was on coach 7 of 8...so the third coach of 117. The non-toilet intermediate coach.

It was similar to the 377 in your last video, however it was on full blast constantly but also grinding noises as well.

Dare I say it; almost reminiscent of the powercar noise in Eurostar coach 1/18! It was very audible going through Crystal Palace tunnel.

It is also very reminiscent of the compressor in a class 313, albeit quieter.

samuelmorris · 3 May 2015

Not sure what's going on there as I always found the earlier electrostar compressors much louder than the newer ones <shrugs>

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