DarloRich
Veteran Member
Is a Beeston to Bedford off peak return marked not London valid via Derby? I think it is via map NM.
are there any other permitted routes?
are there any other permitted routes?
Fine via Derby, doubleback through Long Eaton's okay (member of Derby group). Not much choice, map NM's your lot but does mean you can go via or avoiding Leicester
You can go that way today. Nottingham to Bedford St. Johns is valid via Bedford or Bletchley. If you go via Bletchley, you are allowed to go via Burton on Trent, but not Birmingham.cheers! Has that changed? I thought in the past you could go via MK & the Marston Vale?
You can go that way today. Nottingham to Bedford St. Johns is valid via Bedford or Bletchley. If you go via Bletchley, you are allowed to go via Burton on Trent, but not Birmingham.
If you intend to travel through Bedford station, you may do that on that route, and may break your journey there, but you can't double back through Bedford St. John as well.
You haven't said what your selected service is...
There are a lot of trains on which a Beeston-Bedford off-peak return is not valid. Scotrail operate thousands of them almost every day.Any train on the selected date
Really? Some evidence would be useful. Hang on, here it comes...You can go that way today. Nottingham to Bedford St. Johns is valid via Bedford or Bletchley. If you go via Bletchley, you are allowed to go via Burton on Trent, but not Birmingham.
That doesn't really back up your first statement. It's very easy to get journey planners to show the route (simply use Atherstone as a via point), they just won't show it as valid on one ticket which is what was being looked for and what you say is valid.With a bit of experimentation, NRE is happy to recommend tickets from Beeston to Ridgmont via Bletchley, but not Beeston-Lidlington ones. I don't know how to get any of the journey planners to show this route.
He means that he is not specifying a time. But you knew that, didn't you.Any train on the selected date
Any train on the selected date
With a bit of experimentation, NRE is happy to recommend tickets from Beeston to Ridgmont via Bletchley, but not Beeston-Lidlington ones. I don't know how to get any of the journey planners to show this route.
I don't know if we can draw any inferences from this behaviour, especially when neither Ridgmont nor Lidlington appears in the current easement list.
Sorry, National Rail Enquiries stopped being the ultimate arbiter of what is or isn't a valid route some time ago.Really? Some evidence would be useful. Hang on, here it comes...
I suppose this confusion was inevitable after your mistake above. I wasn't using NRE to validate the whole route, but only one aspect of it.That doesn't really back up your first statement.
That's the case here.They're usually in different fare clusters for longer distance journeys.
Sorry, National Rail Enquiries stopped being the ultimate arbiter of what is or isn't a valid route some time ago.
Routeing Guide Data | ATOC said:The content has been approved by the Department for
Transport. If you are planning a journey we would strongly advise you to make use of
the Journey Planner at www.nationalrail.co.uk. Any ticket indicated for use in
conjunction with a particular journey when using the Journey Planner will
automatically be valid for the route and service indicated.
It is so because the page you quoted from says it is so. Unfortunately, you failed to quote the section which answered your question.How so?
thanks for the PM. Points notedYou may well be right. I do also remotely remember Nottingham - Bedford being permitted via MKC. You have a PM.
Presumably for a Beeston to Bedford St Johns journey, Bletchley is an appropriate routeing point. Beeston to Bedford St Johns is more expensive thatn Beeston to Bletchley.
is it not Nottingham Group to Bedford group on the maps?
No, there's no Bedford group on the maps. As the table says, Bedford St. Johns is associated with Bedford and Bletchley. Bedford is a routeing point.is it not Nottingham Group to Bedford group on the maps?