aaronoxford77
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Do the "Tugs" have a place on today's railways? I think they should be fully reinstated. Massively powerful and given the right treatment could be around for years to come.
It just seems so wrong that lines of them are rotting away while companies are short of traction.
Do you know the cost to repair these?
Taking an uneducated guess here, but it would be aboveDo you know the cost to repair these?
Its expensive but not nearly as expensive as letting millions of pounds rot when others could use them.
Should be restored, yes, it's a right shame to see a decent and useful locomotive class wasting away.
Will be restored; I'm not sure they will find enough work/demand.
How would you find work for all of them? If I recall correctly Brush built 100 class 60's and yet I don't suppose that any more than 50% are in use at the moment. The reality is the only growth area of freight is Intermodal and I would have thought that class 66's are far more suited to that kind of traffic.
Should be restored, yes, it's a right shame to see a decent and useful locomotive class wasting away.
Will be restored; I'm not sure they will find enough work/demand.
Unless there's growth in super heavy freight train requirements, then it's a case of seeing the 60s rotting, or or using them in place of the more suitable 66s and seeing them rotting instead, gladly.
Welcome to accounting. Sometimes things seem like a waste until you look at the costing, and given DBS is a business you can be pretty sure that they've not let the class 60s rot just for the lulz. The class 60s have their place but there is in general a push to move away from slow freight because of the capacity it takes up. For example, Freightliner have purchased class 70s because they are 75mph locomotives with a higher tractive effort than class 60s. Why reduce capacity with an older slower locomotive when you can have a faster, more powerful and newer design instead?aaronoxford77 said:Its expensive but not nearly as expensive as letting millions of pounds rot when others could use them.
Not when there is such a plentiful supply (including spare parts) of GE Dash 8 and EMD JT26 or JT42 locos of roughly the same vintage.Is there any foreign FOC who could make use of some?
Could the 60s realistically be rebuilt for either passenger work or for faster freight working?
Could we see any examples enter preservation at all (even if its only 60001 - if it still exists)?
Would they be any good for working on engineer's trains - maybe on the construction of HS2 - if that goes ahead and enough of them survive that long?
Could the 60s realistically be rebuilt for either passenger work or for faster freight working?
Could we see any examples enter preservation at all (even if its only 60001 - if it still exists)?
Would they be any good for working on engineer's trains - maybe on the construction of HS2 - if that goes ahead and enough of them survive that long?
Do the "Tugs" have a place on today's railways? I think they should be fully reinstated. Massively powerful and given the right treatment could be around for years to come.
It is a shame that such a useful (and nice to drive) engine like the 60 should be sitting idle. To be fair, the argument that 66's are more useful doesn't really stack up when all you are hauling is a class 6 train limited to 60mph. For a class 4 train then obviously it has to be a 66, but for a train limited to 60mph or less, then why not use a 60?