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Age of Caledonian Sleeper stock?

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The MK3s were built between 1981 and 1984.

The MK2Es were built between 1972 and 1974
The MK2Fs were built between 1973 and 1975
 
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The sleeper coaches are Mk3s. The lounge cars are either Mk2e or Mk2fs. The locomotives hauling it between Euston and Edinburgh are either 92s (built 93-96), 90s (built 87-90) or in exceptional circumstances, 87002 (built 73-74ish). After Edinburgh, it is hauled by a 67 (built 99-2000) but they will be replaced in the future by rebuilt 73s (built 62/65-67, rebuilt 14-15+)
 

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I thought most coaches or locomotives accept those on the Isle of Wight that where built prior to 1976 had been replaced!
 

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I thought most coaches or locomotives accept those on the Isle of Wight that where built prior to 1976 had been replaced!

No, there's still a fair amount of Mark 2 coaching stock in use.
 

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The "where"s certainly are. :D

Weres this leading, make no acceptions :lol:.

Anyway the facts are OK once the 1974 vs 1984 question is resolved.

I have not travelled on the sleeper recently but I would have thought a refurbishment would suffice. But then en-suite would be a big improvement (for first class) and probably not feasible in the current bodyshels. The train does not travel that fast - otherwise passengers do not get a long enough sleep !. So its not a case of needing something that is able to operate faster and I doubt if the existing sleepers have worn out running gear.

Of course the sleepers to the South West are the same type and vintage btw.
 
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Most of it though is doing excursion services though isn't it and not doing day in day out services?

ScotRail/DRS operated Fife Circle LHCS services make use of Mark 2 stock, as does the Northern/DRS operated Cumbrian Coast LHCS services.

There's also a number of the prototype Mark 3 coaches in service with Virgin East Coast and First Great Western, they date from 1972.
 

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ScotRail/DRS operated Fife Circle LHCS services make use of Mark 2 stock, as does the Northern/DRS operated Cumbrian Coast LHCS services.

There's also a number of the prototype Mark 3 coaches in service with Virgin East Coast and First Great Western, they date from 1972.

Thank you for answering my question.
 
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