Looks like Southeastern are taking another hit today. Nothing running between London Bridge and Slade Green via Woolwich. Anyone know what's happened?
The title says it. Freight derailment at Angerstein Jn.
I read it as open/open/closed - i.e. that's what the switch blades were doing!o/o/c = Out of correspondance
Yes - same train and same location I believe - 9th of May 2014.Is that the same place as the freightliner one last year.
Reports that the points flashed O/O/C with the passage of 6V43 and the image above seems to illustrate the end result! No doubt RAIB will get to the bottom of the cause in due course.
It would seem passenger services have resumed now but recovering that little lot will take a while. Main thing is nobody was injured.
I am a bit confused that nationalrail.co.uk reported that trains could not run via Greenwich. I thought it would have blocked the route via Lewishiam?
What I can sumise (someone who knows the area better may well correct me!) the job was totally stopped and then the lines to the right (which I presume are the route via Greenwich?) were re-opened in due course.
Yes - same train and same location I believe - 9th of May 2014.
Thanks for the correction. I usually see it at St Albans City station around 3.20pm on Weds, when I'm working at the signal box - wondered why it hadn't come through today!It was 2nd April 2014 it happened, the May date is when it appeared on the RAIB website.
The Greenwich line was reopened about 1600ish after the loco and first few wagons were removed, its just the Blackheath jn to Charlton jn that remains closed and probably will be for a day or two.
I know this is probably a stupid question but it has always baffled me so I have to ask.
How as a driver do u know when a truck had derailed?. I can understand it if your loco comes off or maybe even the front wagon or so, but I've seen pictures before where it's a wagon right near the back of a train, how do u know when that's off the track?. No rear view mirror so do u just depend on the air brakes disconnecting and kicking in?, or does the train pull differently???.
I know this is probably a stupid question but it has always baffled me so I have to ask.
How as a driver do u know when a truck had derailed?. I can understand it if your loco comes off or maybe even the front wagon or so, but I've seen pictures before where it's a wagon right near the back of a train, how do u know when that's off the track?. No rear view mirror so do u just depend on the air brakes disconnecting and kicking in?, or does the train pull differently???.
As said, it can be both depending on the nature of the derailment. Driver maybe able to hear it if circumstances are right or see it if he happens to be *looking back down the train...
*Periodic looking back at the train is a requirement on freight trains to make sure everything is ok.
Its also possible that a train can derail without the driver realising and also derail and rerail without the driver or anyone else noticing.
The freight that derailed at Marks Tey a few years ago managed to travel for about a mile before getting the word to stop as the wagons remained up right and connected.
o/o/c = Out of correspondance
Despite the derailment - Southeastern managed a respectable 94% PPM this afternoon. Good work all round.
Don't be daft, that would cost money!Out of interest do modern freight locos have any rear facing cameras to monitor the train?
The Marks Tey one was stopping distance for that train.
Drivers have a good sense of train movement for a given location/speed/power controller setting. You will know if it is not accelerating /coasting/braking as it should, in much the same way that you will know if your car is suddenly short of power (eg if the turbo goes). So they will usually know that something is wrong even if the brakes don't come on or there is no noise.
Pretty sure he was unaware to start with, think it was someone trackside calling in an Emergency.