Rolling stock numbers?

[Alasdair]

Hi

Does anyone know the full rolling stock numbers of the Scotrail, Virgin West Coast, East Midlands Trains (EMT) and CrossCountry (XC) fleets?

 

[Domh245]

does anyone know the rolling stock numbers of the scotrail fleet?

As in total fleet size, or as in individual units?

Fleet size:
288 units (784 coaches)
2 Locomotives (hire in from DRS)
12 Mk2 Coaches (hire in from DRS)

Class numbers used:
156
158
170
314
318
320
334
380

Note that there they are due to receive some more rolling stock over the course of the franchise.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abellio_ScotRail#Rolling_stock

 

[Alasdair]

hi thanks for that
i was looking for the unit numbers per class

 

[crehld]

Ok, I think it might just be easier for you to consult this excellent website: http://abrail.co.uk/

 

[fishquinn]

Virgin WestCoast SuperVoyagers:-
221101
221102
221103
221104
221105
221106
221107
221108
221109
221110
221111
221112
221113
221114
221115
221116
221117
221118
221142
221143

Virgin West Coast Pendolinos:-
390001
390002
390005
390006
390008
390009
390010
390011
390013
390016
390020
390039
390040
390042
390043
390044
390045
390046
390047
390049
390050
390103
390104
390107
390112
390114
390115
390117
390118
390119
390121
390122
390123
390124
390125
390126
390127
390128
390129
390130
390131
390132
390134
390135
390136
390137
390138
390141
390148
390151
390152
390153
390154
390155
390156
390157

The 221s are all formed of 5 coaches, the 390/0s are all formed of 9 coaches and the 390/1s are all formed of 11 coaches.

 

[Domh245]

as alluded to in a different thread, your friend here is abrail.co.uk

http://www.abrail.co.uk/emuformations.htm
http://www.abrail.co.uk/dmuformations.htm
http://www.abrail.co.uk/diesellocodetail.htm
http://www.abrail.co.uk/electriclocodetail.htm
http://www.abrail.co.uk/lhcspassdetail.htm

These webpages contain details about the rolling stock on the network, and has details about livery, owner, operator, depot etc

Using the search function of your internet browser, you can then use the codes from this page:

http://www.abrail.co.uk/Rail Franchises.htm

to find the stock used by operators. In some cases, an operator will use a 'block' of stock, eg scotrail use all trains from 314201 to 314216, but in others (notably classes 150, 156, 158) The ordering is less consistent, and operators will have units from all over the class

 

[fishquinn]

EMT Power cars:-
43043
43044
43045
43046
43047
43048
43049
43050
43052
43054
43055
43058
43059
43060
43061
43064
43066
43073
43075
43076
43081
43082
43083
43089

EMT Class 153 DMUs:-
153302
153308
153310
153311
153313
153319
153321
153326
153355
153357
153374
153376
153379
153381
153383
153384
153385

EMT Class 156 DMUs:-
156401
156403
156404
156405
156406
156408
156410
156411
156413
156414
156415
156470
156473
156497
156498

EMT Class 158 DMUs:-
158770
158773
158777
158780
158783
158785
158788
158799
158806
158810
158812
158813
158846
158847
158852
158854
158856
158857
158858
158862
158863
158864
158865
158866
158889

EMT Meridians:-
222001-222023
222101-222104

 

[Alasdair]

thank you Fishqinn that is very help full
im new to trains so i apologize
so the 390 up to 050 are 9 coach and 390 103 onward are 11

 

[Alasdair]

thanks again fishquinn you are so helpful to us beginners

 

[fishquinn]

Thats right.

 

[Alasdair]

thanks folks im new to trains and like spotting them

 

[crehld]

thank you Fishqinn that is very help full
im new to trains so i apologize
so the 390 up to 050 are 9 coach and 390 103 onward are 11

Basically yes. If the unit number starts 3900xx (so called class 390/0) then it's 9 coaches. Units starting 3901xx (so called class 390/1) are 11 coach. You'll notice the numbers aren't consecutive. This is because some of the 9 coach 390/0s were converted into 11 coach units, making them 390/1s. I'm relatively new to it to!

 

[Alasdair]

thanks im learning slowly about trains

 

[crehld]

If you're interested in spotting / recording them you might find it useful to get a stock list book which will list everything - basically the same as the abrail website listed above, but much easier to carry about!

I (and many other forum members) make use of the NREA. They're often stocked in station book shops, but you can also get it online.

There is a similar book which I have from Platform 5 publications. It's more expensive but includes more information. Again available at many station bookshops and online.

I'm sure many other similar publications exist!

 

[fishquinn]

CrossCountry (XC) power cars:
43207
43285
43301
43303
43304
43321
43357
43366
43378
43384

XC Class 170 DMUs:-
170101
170102
170103
170104
170105
170106
170107
170108
170109
170110
170111
170112
170113
170114
170115
170116
170117
170397
170398
170518
170519
170520
170521
170522
170523
170636
170637
170638
170639

XC Voyagers::-
220001-220034

XC SuperVoyagers:-
221119-221141


The class 43s (HSTs) are locomotives and usually work with a 43 leading, 7 coaches (mk3s) and then another 43 on the back.

The class 170s are formed of both 2 and 3 coaches and work around Birmingham. 170101-170110 are 3 coach, 170111-170117 are 2 coach, 170397 and 170398 are 3 coaches, 170518-170523 are 2 coaches and then 170636-170639 are 3 coaches.

The class 220s are all formed of 4 coaches and in my opinion are the worst train on the network (along with 221s which are formed of 5 coaches except 221141 which is formed of 4).

I hope this helps.

 

[thomson787]

I'm sure I know that user name from PPRUNE's Thomas cook thread....

 

[adrock1976]

Don't forget that 390033 "City of Glasgow" was involved in the Grayrigg accident back in 2007, and was subsequently written off.

 

[cactustwirly]

in my opinion are the worst train on the network (along with 221s which are formed of 5 coaches except 221141 which is formed of 4).

A slight exaggeration there! They're excellent when they are empty but they could of had a better sited air-con and more coaches. Also VTWC ones are cleaner and better maintained.

I would rather have a 220 than most trains on the network.

Sorry for going off topic.

The list looks good, but you missed out the coaches.

TF:
41026
41035
41193-95

TS:
42036-38
42051-53
42097
42234
42290
42342
42366-80

TGS:
44012
44017
44021
44052
44072

TC:
45001-5

 

[ainsworth74]

Can we not do whether or not Voyagers are nice/spawn of satan on this thread please? We've done it quite a few times over the years

 

[fishquinn]

Seconded.

 

[DarloRich]

just buy a combined stock book from amazon?

The most recent platform 5 book is called

British Railways Locomotives & Coaching Stock 2015: The Rolling Stock of Britain's Mainline Railway Operators and Light Rail Systems

that will have all hte detials you could ever want