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Bunsenburner

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Just wondering if anyone has had to deal with anti-social behaviour on a station platform? Specifically any member of staff that hasnt really had any training to deal with the such. Im a driver, and after my shift, I witnessed a gang of youths trying to steal a bike from the rack as i walked past. I confronted them, and asked what they were doing and why, to be be told in no uncertain terms to mind my own business and go away, or words to that effect!! I went straight to the crewroom and rang it in to control, who informed the BTP. Would anyone do anything different in the circumstances, eg brazenly take their photo on your camera phone, to scare them off, or is that suffice?
 
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you did the right thing and did so safely. That is the important thing. There is no point taking on a gang of lads and getting a kicking or worse
 

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Just wondering if anyone has had to deal with anti-social behaviour on a station platform? Specifically any member of staff that hasnt really had any training to deal with the such. Im a driver, and after my shift, I witnessed a gang of youths trying to steal a bike from the rack as i walked past. I confronted them, and asked what they were doing and why, to be be told in no uncertain terms to mind my own business and go away, or words to that effect!! I went straight to the crewroom and rang it in to control, who informed the BTP. Would anyone do anything different in the circumstances, eg brazenly take their photo on your camera phone, to scare them off, or is that suffice?

I wouldn't have approached them at all and rung the BTP immediately, why put yourself at risk?
 

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Just wondering if anyone has had to deal with anti-social behaviour on a station platform? Specifically any member of staff that hasnt really had any training to deal with the such. Im a driver, and after my shift, I witnessed a gang of youths trying to steal a bike from the rack as i walked past. I confronted them, and asked what they were doing and why, to be be told in no uncertain terms to mind my own business and go away, or words to that effect!! I went straight to the crewroom and rang it in to control, who informed the BTP. Would anyone do anything different in the circumstances, eg brazenly take their photo on your camera phone, to scare them off, or is that suffice?

Used to chase a few of them back at the Cross when they had them by plat 1. totally different at a terminal than any other station though as there's more people around in general so nothing happens to you. You done the right thing though.
 

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There was a group of lads on one of my services not long ago, standing on seats and saying stuff to women who walked passed, flicking the first class fabric seat things around.
 

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For most of us Its always tempting to step in to try to restore some order or good sense. And if every good citizen always calls the police then life as we know it would stop.
At the same time we all know of cases where people have intervened in minor disorder and soon been very sorry indeed. So its a difficult call, and there are no easy answers, its a matter of personal character - and personal judgment.
 

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We have a bike rack on one of the platforms where I work, I once saw some youths tampering with bikes so just made an exceptionally loud announcement across the entire station about them and they soon weren't seen for dust.

Fortunately I can get away with it because there's always lots of staff and customers around; anywhere else though I'd probably use the text BTP service.
 

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Just wondering if anyone has had to deal with anti-social behaviour on a station platform? Specifically any member of staff that hasnt really had any training to deal with the such. Im a driver, and after my shift, I witnessed a gang of youths trying to steal a bike from the rack as i walked past. I confronted them, and asked what they were doing and why, to be be told in no uncertain terms to mind my own business and go away, or words to that effect!! I went straight to the crewroom and rang it in to control, who informed the BTP. Would anyone do anything different in the circumstances, eg brazenly take their photo on your camera phone, to scare them off, or is that suffice?

You did the right thing to report it, I was on a train last year I got verbally assaulted I told the station staff they just told me to send an email to the customer relations department... it was another station that had to get btp involved for me
 

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Something like that happened when I was at secondary school in the 1970s, a group of our schoolboys were skiving out from school at the local railway station. The station master drove them back to the school and the headmaster who dealt with them accordingly.
 

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I told someone who was bragging about being sat in first class on a standard ticket once where to go (as I had a first class ticket for a longer journey than the passenger was making and I was stood in the aisle.)

Admittedly I was surprised when they sheepishly moved!
 

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I wouldn't have approached them at all and rung the BTP immediately, why put yourself at risk?

Thats what my wife said, and threatened me with much worse if i approach anyone again!!The civilian police actually turned up on this occasion, as they were close by. They managed to get away though,without the bike thankfully.
 

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Just wondering if anyone has had to deal with anti-social behaviour on a station platform? Specifically any member of staff that hasnt really had any training to deal with the such. Im a driver, and after my shift, I witnessed a gang of youths trying to steal a bike from the rack as i walked past. I confronted them, and asked what they were doing and why, to be be told in no uncertain terms to mind my own business and go away, or words to that effect!! I went straight to the crewroom and rang it in to control, who informed the BTP. Would anyone do anything different in the circumstances, eg brazenly take their photo on your camera phone, to scare them off, or is that suffice?

Completely the right thing to do. No point getting yourself a kicking as others have said.
 

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Always weigh up the risks and then add a few drops of caution. I was always quite fond of getting rid of the local beggars from the station. One or two you knew just to discretely call the plod and either BTP or the civil police would end up dragging them off kicking and screaming though.
 

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Something like that happened when I was at secondary school in the 1970s, a group of our schoolboys were skiving out from school at the local railway station. The station master drove them back to the school and the headmaster who dealt with them accordingly.

In the 1960s I was at a supposedly very respectable secondary school in South London, (in Dulwich, there's a clue). At North Dulwich station a guy in the year above me chucked a lit Guy Fawkes banger into a compartment of a SUB that had just arrived in the down platform. The driver jumped out of his cab, shouting "Set fire to my f***ing train, would you?" and seized the boy by the ear. Two porters walked him back to school and handed him over to the headmaster. I believe he got caned.
 

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In the 1960s I was at a supposedly very respectable secondary school in South London, (in Dulwich, there's a clue). At North Dulwich station a guy in the year above me chucked a lit Guy Fawkes banger into a compartment of a SUB that had just arrived in the down platform. The driver jumped out of his cab, shouting "Set fire to my f***ing train, would you?" and seized the boy by the ear. Two porters walked him back to school and handed him over to the headmaster. I believe he got caned.

I would have expected an ex Dulwich Grammar boy to use the word "threw" rather than the rather vulgar sounding "chucked".
 

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In the 1960s I was at a supposedly very respectable secondary school in South London, (in Dulwich, there's a clue). At North Dulwich station a guy in the year above me chucked a lit Guy Fawkes banger into a compartment of a SUB that had just arrived in the down platform. The driver jumped out of his cab, shouting "Set fire to my f***ing train, would you?" and seized the boy by the ear. Two porters walked him back to school and handed him over to the headmaster. I believe he got caned.

Yes that's what happened to the boys I mentioned in my thread above. They can't do that sort of thing now.
 
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I would have expected an ex Dulwich Grammar boy to use the word "threw" rather than the rather vulgar sounding "chucked".
I suspect you're winding me up, but hey, I'll rise. At Alleyn's (which is a public, not grammar school) they taught us to use language imaginatively, and I like saying "chucked".
 
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