I'm sure we're probably familiar with Condition 19(b) but for anyone who isn't here is Condition 19 in full with (b) highlighted:
Now my question relates to combining tickets where one has a destination of 'London Terminals' and the other has an origin of 'London Terminals' and they are used at different terminals (e.g. one ticket is used to travel into Kings Cross and the next, separate, ticket is used from Euston).
Does a combination like this still satisfy Condition 19(b) and therefore can still be treated as a singe journey or is it now two separate journeys? This would be of particular relevance in the calculation of entitlement to Delay Repay as if it counts as one journey then both tickets should be included in any calculation but if its separate journeys then only one ticket should be included.
There is no concern over break of journey or similar as Condition 16 allows you to join a train at another station and not have that count as break of journey:
Thoughts?
19. Using a combination of tickets
You may use two or more tickets for one journey as long as together they cover the entire journey and one of the following applies:
(a) they are both Zonal Tickets unless special conditions prohibit their use in this way. The Ticket Seller will, if you ask, advise you whether you can use a Zonal Ticket in combination with another ticket.
(b) the train you are in calls at a station where you change from one ticket to another;
or
(c) one of the tickets is a Season Ticket (which for this purpose does not include Season Tickets or travel passes issued on behalf of a passenger transport executive or local authority) or a leisure travel pass, and the other ticket(s) is/are not.
You must comply with any restriction shown on the tickets relating to travel in the trains of a particular Train Company or Train Companies (see Condition 10).
If you do not comply with this Condition, you will be treated as having joined the train without a ticket and Condition 2 or 4 will apply, either to the entire journey, or from the last station where the train stopped at which at least one of the tickets was valid.
For the purposes of this Condition, a leisure travel pass means any multi-journey ticket (excluding Season Tickets) valid for:
(i) at least 7 consecutive days; or
(ii) at least 3 days in a period of at least 7 consecutive days
and includes rover tickets, travel passes, flexipass tickets and BritRail passes.
Now my question relates to combining tickets where one has a destination of 'London Terminals' and the other has an origin of 'London Terminals' and they are used at different terminals (e.g. one ticket is used to travel into Kings Cross and the next, separate, ticket is used from Euston).
Does a combination like this still satisfy Condition 19(b) and therefore can still be treated as a singe journey or is it now two separate journeys? This would be of particular relevance in the calculation of entitlement to Delay Repay as if it counts as one journey then both tickets should be included in any calculation but if its separate journeys then only one ticket should be included.
There is no concern over break of journey or similar as Condition 16 allows you to join a train at another station and not have that count as break of journey:
16. Starting, breaking or ending a journey at intermediate stations
For the purposes of this Condition and Condition 11, you will be treated as breaking your journey if you leave a Train Companys or Rail Service Companys stations after you start your journey other than to:
(i) join a train at another station, or
(ii) stay in overnight accommodation when you cannot reasonably complete your journey within one day, or
(iii) follow any instructions given by a member of a Train Companys or Rail Service Companys staff.
Thoughts?