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Slight changes you would make to liveries to make them nicer

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What do you think most (non-enthusiast) travellers want? Pretty colours, or a co-ordinated network that runs on time, where you can understand the fares structure and where conections are protected if things are going wrong?

Is there any reason we can’t have both?
 

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Quite. I like their solution (ok, actually I’m being sarcastic) to the Virgin red on the roof. Just don’t wash them, as the exhaust and whatever else dirt is similar in colour to the XC livery.

The 390s have a lot of carbon stains on the roof from the pantograph.
 

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The big change I'd make is replacing the majority of white with almost any other colour. I'd also remove ALL corporate branding:- Beardie Pickle-man shouldn't get a pass because his brand "adds value" whatever the **** that means! <(
 

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I’ve seen a livery mock up on the internet before - it was of a FGW HST with the same livery style, except the body was in midnight blue, and the dynamic lines were in shades of yellows and oranges. It looked lovely, though I can no longer find the image.
 

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Personally i would paint everything Rail Freight Coal.

I'm not totally sure about what, but were I in charge ALL rolling stock would be a single dignified colour (navy, dark green, maroon, black) across the whole of England and I'd allow modest, tasteful vinyl branding in Gill Sans with a single logo per carriage/loco side.
 

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I’ve seen a livery mock up on the internet before - it was of a FGW HST with the same livery style, except the body was in midnight blue, and the dynamic lines were in shades of yellows and oranges. It looked lovely, though I can no longer find the image.

I found something similar, but the body is in black rather than midnight blue

First Great Western Sunset HST by Paul Burkitt-Gray, on Flickr
 

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I'd modify the current VTEC one thus:

Remove the red except for a waist stripe.
Change all the white for a glossy Navy blue.
Change the V and T for a G and N.
Change the C for a R
 

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I'd modify the current VTEC one thus:

Remove the red except for a waist stripe.
Change all the white for a glossy Navy blue.
Change the V and T for a G and N.
Change the C for a R
I thougt this is a thread for Slight changes you would make to liveries to make them nicer and not Bring back GNER...
 

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I'm not totally sure about what, but were I in charge ALL rolling stock would be a single dignified colour (navy, dark green, maroon, black) across the whole of England and I'd allow modest, tasteful vinyl branding in Gill Sans with a single logo per carriage/loco side.

Thankfully you're not!
 

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Here's another one.
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(based off Mike McDermott's image on Flickr) - all credit to him for the original
 

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The Dynamic Lines livery is an interesting one. Personally I think the original is the nicest livery ever seen on the railway, and it's a real shame First went for a horrid washed out white based one on buses.
 

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The Dynamic Lines livery is an interesting one. Personally I think the original is the nicest livery ever seen on the railway, and it's a real shame First went for a horrid washed out white based one on buses.
I do agree that their bus liveries have a lot to be desired compared to their train liveries. IMO the dynamic lines on the TPE 350's was the best version.
 

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I found something similar, but the body is in black rather than midnight blue

First Great Western Sunset HST by Paul Burkitt-Gray, on Flickr

Ah yes!! That was the one! I think it looks incredible, though I do love the dynamic lines livery as it is on the HSTs and 180s. I’d love to see some kind of ice version, with dynamic lines of whites, turquoises and blue - on maybe a light grey.
 

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Here's another one.
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(based off Mike McDermott's image on Flickr) - all credit to him for the original

yeh, dont see the point in the yellow on the doors..not needed according to the disabilities act etc.

As ive said on other threads, i just think the door contrast colour issue ruins some liveries.

Also on the 377s, dark roofs would be better.
 

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On me, suggesting a single country wide livery:

member: 51336" said:
Exactly. Imagine the confusion caused.

We did manage when a single company ran all the trains with the same livery and we avoided the need to repaint in a rush at franchise changes.
 

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Straight away i would remove the various coloured dotted 'n' logos on each end of the new northern livery. To me it screams late 90's / early 00's. Without them the livery looks instantly smarter and has a standardised blue 'n' logo making the whole marketing and branding much simpler.
 

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Straight away i would remove the various coloured dotted 'n' logos on each end of the new northern livery. To me it screams late 90's / early 00's. Without them the livery looks instantly smarter and has a standardised blue 'n' logo making the whole marketing and branding much simpler.
I think they suffered from "we have space left what to do?"
 

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On me, suggesting a single country wide livery:



We did manage when a single company ran all the trains with the same livery and we avoided the need to repaint in a rush at franchise changes.

I agree that unnecessary, expensive repaints before the current paint is life expired purely for corporate vanity is a bad thing. To be fair, this is being addressed by having generic franchise names that can keep the brand identity on changeover.

I strongly disagree that everything should be one plain colour though. How dull would that be.
 

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Here is what a 185 would look like without the yellow front (like on the TPE livery 68). I personally think it looks better without a yellow front (though I suspect I'm probably in the minority here)
 

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a_c_skinner

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Everything dates. Apart it would seem from Brunswick Green, which goes on. Forget maroon, very 1950s. GNER did well with plain navy blue.
 
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