Major Disruption At Nottingham Due To Fire (12/01)

[Mugby]

Indeed, the toilets referred to are accessed from the Southern Concourse (ie from outside the ticket gates). They are 'pay to enter'.
They are shown on this schematic from the EMT website on the pages numbered 12 and 16 in the PDF:
https://www.eastmidlandstrains.co.uk/Global/Documents/Nottingham Station LP guide updated for website.pdf

Ah, I didn't know that. Given that the Southern Concourse is fairly new, presumably it should be well equipped with CCTV?

 

[fowler9]

Northern now claiming on its website that 'all our routes have a good service'. It'll be interesting in the morning to see if they bothered to take Nottingham into account when making that statrment.

It is a very bold claim even without the fire being taken in to account.

 

[thenorthern]

Using Google Maps I have tried to create a plan of how the layout is, from I understand the fire started in the toilets which are circled in red.

 

[WatcherZero]

There was a witness this morning who said they were in the multi-storey and saw smoke coming from the toilets around 6:45, so I'm surprised they are that far apart.

 

[thenorthern]

I have checked and had it confirmed that platform 6 and 7 are the ones that are out of use, I am not surprised given that there was a raging fire directly above them.

 

[TUC]

Northern now claiming on its website that 'all our routes have a good service'. It'll be interesting in the morning to see if they bothered to take Nottingham into account when making that statrment.

Northern are showing the 0711 Nottingham-Leeds operating normally, although a Station Update for Nottingham says 'lifts out of order', which is technically correct but a bit of an understatement of Nottingam's problems!

 

[High Dyke]

East Midlands Trains have announced which services are running tomorrow.

Damn! I've got to do some work this morning...

Joking aside. Fair credit to all involved in getting a modicum of service running at the station. I hadn't realised there were a set of toilets in that part of the station, but as they are for ladies then they're no use to me.

Yes it is a shame to see the pictures of the damage, but thankfully it didn't spread to other parts of the station or any rolling stock. More importantly there were no reported injuries as a result of this incident.

 

[kevjs]

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Using Google Maps I have tried to create a plan of how the layout is, from I understand the fire started in the toilets which are circled in red.

IIRC "PLAT 4" is actually (bay) Platform 5. Platform 4 is further to the right on a build out.

There was a witness this morning who said they were in the multi-storey and saw smoke coming from the toilets around 6:45, so I'm surprised they are that far apart.

Actually that's not really a surprise - right of the word TOILETS is basically all open (stairs and ramps, no floor) and the car park links into that same area on the same level with a bridge - entirely possible to see from outside the loos to the car park and vice verse. All glass walls too.

I hadn't realised there were a set of toilets in that part of the station, but as they are for ladies then they're no use to me.

There are Gents there too. Usually quieter and cleaner than the platform ones.

 

[kevjs]

Northern are showing the 0711 Nottingham-Leeds operating normally, although a Station Update for Nottingham says 'lifts out of order', which is technically correct but a bit of an understatement of Nottingam's problems!

Is it "lifts" out of order, or is the platform 1/2/3 one working? Guessing it's easier to say no lift access rather than let a wheelchair/reduced mobility user get trapped on Platform 4/5/6 after a late platform change or indeed be unable to access a service they earlier expected to be able to access after the same.

 

[kevjs]

Does anyone know the status of the Co-op?

If anyone is planning on picking up snacks for there journey and was thinking of using the Tesco Express outside the entrance as a plan B (should the co-op be closed) - be aware that is currently closed for a refurb. Nearest convenience store would be the Sainsbury's local at the junction of Carrington and Canal Streets.

 

[High Dyke]

Is it "lifts" out of order, or is the platform 1/2/3 one working? Guessing it's easier to say no lift access rather than let a wheelchair/reduced mobility user get trapped on Platform 4/5/6 after a late platform change or indeed be unable to access a service they earlier expected to be able to access after the same.

It could be that they are using the Station Street access to the station and not through the main concourse, which would mean no step free access to platforms, but as you say probably easier to advise people no lifts available.

 

[Harpers Tate]

Northern are showing the 0711 Nottingham-Leeds operating normally...

and RTT says it did do so http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y53856/2018/01/13

 

[High Dyke]

1Y12 (08:17) Nottingham - Leeds currently in P4 at Nottingham.

 

[kevjs]

It could be that they are using the Station Street access to the station and not through the main concourse, which would mean no step free access to platforms, but as you say probably easier to advise people no lifts available.

That makes sense - The Nottingham Post have reported the Station Street entrance is opened but not the main entrance and is showing that it's still cordoned off http://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/nottingham-train-station-fire-open-1047660

Caught the end of an interview on Radio Nottingham where it sounds like the IT Infrastructure has been damaged preventing the ticket machines from being used - she also said they are accepting booking references printed or on mobile in place of tickets for those who were supposed to collect at the station.

NET also say they are serving the station but "Passengers will be advised to use the old exit via Station Street. And no acces to the main station via the tram platform.
" http://www.thetram.net/disruptions.aspx

 

[TUC]

I wonder if it is the station electrics that have bern damaged rather than the IT itself? Anyone know whether the main station lighting is working or do they have other lighting in place?

 

[Andyh82]

Northern are running a normal service to/from Nottingham as per National Rail Enquiries.

 

[Stampy]

Northern are running a normal service to/from Nottingham as per National Rail Enquiries.

Excellent.

I'll set off soon (leave a bit earlier, just in case it all changes!!!)

 

[kevjs]

Lighting is on on the damaged bridge, and the main entrance re-opened at 09:00.

http://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/nottingham-train-station-fire-open-1047660

Photos make it look a bit gloomy in the waiting area though!

Video on Nottingham Post's Facebook from around 08:00 this morning showing the station

 

[InOban]

http://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/nottingham-train-station-fire-how-1059493

More pictures.

 

[MG11]

Does anyone know the status of the Co-op?

If anyone is planning on picking up snacks for there journey and was thinking of using the Tesco Express outside the entrance as a plan B (should the co-op be closed) - be aware that is currently closed for a refurb. Nearest convenience store would be the Sainsbury's local at the junction of Carrington and Canal Streets.

According to Low Level, Rail Gourmet Standard Class trolley services are held away from the affected area, so an at-seat refreshment service should still be available. I'm not sure about First Class or CrossCountry (First Onboard) services though.

 

[MG11]

http://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/nottingham-train-station-fire-how-1059493

More pictures.

For a split second, I thought the other bridge was fire damaged too, then I realised it was smoke dust from the trains underneath!

 

[MG11]

Well done East Midlands Trains. I am shocked at how quickly the service has resumed and how much of the station they have been able to re-open.

 

[221129]

According to Low Level, Rail Gourmet Standard Class trolley services are held away from the affected area, so an at-seat refreshment service should still be available. I'm not sure about First Class or CrossCountry (First Onboard) services though.

That's not what was asked...

 

[221129]

Well done East Midlands Trains. I am shocked at how quickly the service has resumed and how much of the station they have been able to re-open.

Not forgetting the Fire service that put it out and Netwrok rail who did all the inspections etc... And all tge other TOCs that operate through Nottingham.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Ah, I didn't know that. Given that the Southern Concourse is fairly new, presumably it should be well equipped with CCTV?

The problem (in this context) is that toilets tend not to have CCTV for fairly obvious reasons. So if you were going to deliberately get up to no good, it's not a bad place to do so, as I guess the perpetrator him/herself thought.

 

[MG11]

Not forgetting the Fire service that put it out and Netwrok rail who did all the inspections etc... And all tge other TOCs that operate through Nottingham.

Of course, well done to those too!

 

[howittpie]

At the station now the tvms are working but are only accepting cash. There are no toilet facilities as they do not have running water which also means no hot drinks available. There is also no tannoy or PiS screens working but seemed plenty of staff helping people.

 

[Timrud]

Top work from EMT - IMO the best TOC

 

[MG11]

The problem (in this context) is that toilets tend not to have CCTV for fairly obvious reasons. So if you were going to deliberately get up to no good, it's not a bad place to do so, as I guess the perpetrator him/herself thought.

I can't imagine it was that busy in the 6th hour of the morning. There would only be a select few people entering the toilets at that time, and I imagine the concourse CCTV will cover the entrance to the toilets.

 

[221129]

Top work from EMT - IMO the best TOC

And all the other TOCs that operate from Nottingham and Network Rail that actually did the work also ya know the Fire service for putting the thing out...